Amantino Mancini (27 Viewers)

[rounder]

Mancini is nothing special. I'm not a fan of Palladino either, but Palladino has given more in his out of position role so far this season much more than Mancini who is playing in his natural position.

So Palladino is the better player this season.

Palla is not a bad player but it's obvious he is nowhere near the standard he should be in . He isn't that young either , there are so many better players out there that are younger than him. I agree he is being played out of position , but more often than not Ranieri plays him on the wings . I'm judging him based on what I have seen from him so far and not what he can potentially do in another position .

Mancini when in form is the best winger in Italy without a doubt . Anyone who comes close to him is our Camo . This season ? Mancini hasn't been the same but Palla hasn't been that impressive either .

I'm not a fan of comparing Palla and Mancini, a
s I still see Palla as a support striker or a trequartista. When he played there, he played fairly well, IMO.

He played 2 or 3 games as a support striker as far as I can remember , all his other games were at either wing . Whether we like it or not , we have to judge Palla on his performances on the wings because well.. that's where he has been playing .

Palladino is overrated as-well. I never liked and never enjoyed his pony show on the field.

What I'm trying to say is that, for someone like Mancini who isn't really impressing shouldn't be rated really high, even in his best days he's not that good. He's good but not more.

Comparing Palladino and Mancini together isn't really smart but as performances and not ability and impact on the field, as perfomances Palladino has given more IMHO.

Maybe Palla has given more , I was judging them based on overall abilities where Mancini is much better.

Read my post. I am disagreeing that he is good. Its his consistancy and character that I dislike. Plus comparing Palladino & Mancini is foolish since they play in different positions. Yes, Palladino can play in the wings but his natural position is as a Forward.

I don't know how he plays as a natural forward because he barely played in that position . I don't understand how people can say he is a good striker when he has rarely been fielded as a striker this season . ( Please don't tell me Serie B)

Palladino not only can play at the wings , that's where the guy has been playing for Juve and even for Italy all season long . As far as im concerned Palladino and Mancini have had the same role this whole season , one player can obviously do it better than the other .

 

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[Fred]

Palladino is overrated as-well. I never liked and never enjoyed his pony show on the field.

What I'm trying to say is that, for someone like Mancini who isn't really impressing shouldn't be rated really high, even in his best days he's not that good. He's good but not more.

Comparing Palladino and Mancini together isn't really smart but as performances and not ability and impact on the field, as perfomances Palladino has given more IMHO.

Frankly i dont know how you can say that, Mancini has been one of Roma's top performers this season, he has scored and assisted goals and he has won games for his team, even in terms of performances this season, Mancini is light years ahead of Palla.

Granted Mancini is inconsistent, but Palla is consistently poor.


PS: Having said that, i dont share the popular view in the forum, that Palla is a bad player, imo he's talented and could be moulded into a really useful player.

 

[Jim_Boi]

I don't know how he plays as a natural forward because he barely played in that position . I don't understand how people can say he is a good striker when he has rarely been fielded as a striker this season . ( Please don't tell me Serie B)

Palladino not only can play at the wings , that's where the guy has been playing for Juve and even for Italy all season long . As far as im concerned Palladino and Mancini have had the same role this whole season , one player can obviously do it better than the other .

Just to be clear I have never said that he is a good striker or anything like that. I still hope he proves me wrong tho. I wouldn't loose any sleep if Juve sold him, but still support him since he is a Juve player.

 

[rounder]

Just to be clear I have never said that he is a good striker or anything like that. I still hope he proves me wrong tho. I wouldn't loose any sleep if Juve sold him, but still support him since he is a Juve player.

I have nothing against Palladino , I was hoping he would have an excellent future with Juve and I still am hoping that . The truth is , he should have made a lot more out of the few chances he got . He is playing for Juve not Treviso , he had to prove he deserved a place in the starting 11 , he failed to do that . When you have players like Alex, Trez , and Iaq in attack you have to give 200% to earn your place .

I hope he proves all his critics wrong including myself someday too but right now , he is not good enough .

 

[Salvo]

IMO selling him now isnt the best option, give him 1 more season and play him in his position if it works i would be very happy, if not we can sell him.

 

[Red]

IMO selling him now isnt the best option, give him 1 more season and play him in his position if it works i would be very happy, if not we can sell him.

But I don't think he has done enough to justify getting the chance to play before Del Piero or Iaquinta.

There just isn't room for him in this squad.

 

[Salvo]

But I don't think he has done enough to justify getting the chance to play before Del Piero or Iaquinta.

There just isn't room for him in this squad.

no im not saying he should start but there will be more games next year and hopefully if he continues to play as a striker and not shuffled around in the formation like ranieri is making him do he can bring something to the side.if not i say we buy another striker and loan him for experience

 

[Red]

If Palla was someone we'd bought, rather than bringing through the youth system, I doubt we would be having a debate on this.

Folk would have been slagging him all season and demanding he be sold.

 

[Fred]

I actually think Palladino playing on the wing could help develop his game, imo juve should keep him for another season, like Xsemprejuve said, next season there will be plenty of matches, he'll get his chance.

 

[Red]

I think we should sell him to Arsenal.

 

[Fred]

I wouldnt mind him at all actually, imo he has the raw ingredients to be a good player.. Wenger could probably develop him into a better player.

 

[Red]

Better, yes.

Good enough, doubtful.

Folk need to remember that he is almost 24, he ought to be getting towards his full potential just now.

Wenger might struggle to have as big an influence on this age of player rather than the 18 year olds he usually signs.

 

[rounder]

If Palla was someone we'd bought, rather than bringing through the youth system, I doubt we would be having a debate on this.

Folk would have been slagging him all season and demanding he be sold.

Better, yes.

Good enough, doubtful.

Folk need to remember that he is almost 24, he ought to be getting towards his full potential just now.

Wenger might struggle to have as big an influence on this age of player rather than the 18 year olds he usually signs.

Imagine he wasn't Italian either . umpkin:

 

[Azzurri7]

How? Its a very simple thing to answer, how?


Not only comparing these two ludicrously apart in quality players, but Mancini on his own, in the last months except for few weeks now, they lived off Mancini scoring and doing everything for them when Totti was gone. They didnt go nowhere in games unless Mancini decided them for them.

Mancini is their second best attacking weapon after Totti. Palladino has done ONE thing right, or two things if you want for the whole season, score against Reggina, and create or build for trezs goal against Napoli in first game. Thats it, has been by far one of our worst players. Is he better then Nedved? Because saying that is not as bad as saying he is better then Mancini.

You can't really compare Mancini to Nedved.

Plus, it's just normal and predictable to score goals when you're starting soo many matches and being the 2nd striker If not the first when Vucinic isn't starting.

Palladino IMO hasn't done anything interesting this season, he was below average but so was Mancini and like I said scoring goals doesn't make him any better.

Palla is not a bad player but it's obvious he is nowhere near the standard he should be in . He isn't that young either , there are so many better players out there that are younger than him. I agree he is being played out of position , but more often than not Ranieri plays him on the wings . I'm judging him based on what I have seen from him so far and not what he can potentially do in another position .

Mancini when in form is the best winger in Italy without a doubt . Anyone who comes close to him is our Camo . This season ? Mancini hasn't been the same but Palla hasn't been that impressive either .

He played 2 or 3 games as a support striker as far as I can remember , all his other games were at either wing . Whether we like it or not , we have to judge Palla on his performances on the wings because well.. that's where he has been playing .

Maybe Palla has given more , I was judging them based on overall abilities where Mancini is much better.

I don't know how he plays as a natural forward because he barely played in that position . I don't understand how people can say he is a good striker when he has rarely been fielded as a striker this season . ( Please don't tell me Serie B)

Palladino not only can play at the wings , that's where the guy has been playing for Juve and even for Italy all season long . As far as im concerned Palladino and Mancini have had the same role this whole season , one player can obviously do it better than the other .

Decent post.

Anyway I don't want sound biased or anything but seriously, Nedved and Camoranesi are by miles n miles n miles ahead of Mancini. They're two world class players, proven ones. Mancini isn't.

I can't deny that Mancini isn't good when he performes but he's not a C. Ronaldo, Camoranesi to Pavel and etc....these players have made their marks, I'm still waiting from Mancini to make one.

 

[Osman]

How has Mancini been below average? Roma are the second team in the league, and besides Totti, he is their best weapon. How can they be 2nd when their second best attackers are below average? (so you say him scoring and deciding games for them, with performances like against Lyon, is nothing? Below average?).

And Nedved is over the hill and shown his decline with some great moments, with some good but alot of bad in the start of the season, basically inconsistency (basically he was so bad in the first half of the season, alot of us was saying give Palla the chance to start instead, you know, before Palla showed he is total shit). But even then, Palladino is nowhere near our Nedved, he is totally useless in comparison.

So how the heck is Palladino's season even half of Mancini's, when he isnt close to our Nedveds? What are you going to say next Palla is as good as Camo too?

Btw, I just made this post before I read what you wrote to Juve Revolution. Did you just say Nedved is miles and miles ahead of Mancini? Seriously??? You should have said that way earlier, so one could understand the skewed view you have of Mancini, and why you came to say a totally useless nobody like Palladino is having a better season...

 

[Salvo]

who said palladino is having a better season than mancini? i said i think palladino needs time and in turn could become as good as mancini if not better. and if you think mancini is playing at his best, you sir are mistaken.

 

[Osman]

Well Azzurri77 has, obviously. Wasnt addressing you. Its bizzare to compare them even, but he said Palladino has given more performances then Roma's second best attacking force.

Then why, pray tell, havent Juve gained anything from these alleged performances of Palladino

 

[Salvo]

Well Azzurri77 has, obviously. Wasnt addressing you. Its bizzare to compare them even, but he said Palladino has given more performances then Roma's second best attacking force.

Then why, pray tell, havent Juve gained anything from these alleged performances of Palladino

one thing i have noticed about palla is that he seems to link with del piero well. or i dont no it could just be me or that im just remebering his pass which then led to that great livorno goal. i still think palla can become quite good if given enough of a chance. you may say he hasnt shown anything but ranieri isnt helping much he keeps putting him in different positions when not playing him on the right these position swaps are hurting him IMO i think he should be played in one spot and one spot only and that spot cant be the right wing. its either the left wing or as a striker.

 

[Fred]

You can't really compare Mancini to Nedved.

Plus, it's just normal and predictable to score goals when you're starting soo many matches and being the 2nd striker If not the first when Vucinic isn't starting.

Palladino IMO hasn't done anything interesting this season, he was below average but so was Mancini and like I said scoring goals doesn't make him any better.

Mancini was never a second striker for Roma, he's always played on the wing.

Decent post.

Anyway I don't want sound biased or anything but seriously, Nedved and Camoranesi are by miles n miles n miles ahead of Mancini. They're two world class players, proven ones. Mancini isn't.

I can't deny that Mancini isn't good when he performes but he's not a C. Ronaldo, Camoranesi to Pavel and etc....these players have made their marks, I'm still waiting from Mancini to make one.

Camo is a better player than Mancini when on form, he's been injured for most of the season though, so i dont think its fair to compare them to each other based on this seasons performances.

Nedved on the other hand is a shadow of his former self, he shows glimpses of his ability here and there, but overall i think Mancini has been head and shoulders ahead of Nedved in terms of recent form.

 

[Osman]

one thing i have noticed about palla is that he seems to link with del piero well. or i dont no it could just be me or that im just remebering his pass which then led to that great livorno goal. i still think palla can become quite good if given enough of a chance. you may say he hasnt shown anything but ranieri isnt helping much he keeps putting him in different positions when not playing him on the right these position swaps are hurting him IMO i think he should be played in one spot and one spot only and that spot cant be the right wing. its either the left wing or as a striker.

He has gotten lots of chances, and he has shown zilch. You know it, we all do. He is about to finish his second season with the team, and has shown he is not good enough. We all wish he did well and prove himself, but he is NOT.

And Ranieri has ZILCH blame with Palla not being good enough. I know everyone likes to blame him for the worlds problem, but you should sacrifice to your Gods Ranieri doesnt only consider him only as a striker, because he had, Palla would have been permanently heating the bench until he is shown the door head first. Palla as a striker is nowhere NEAR getting any minutes with DP, Iaquinta and Trez all beyong way beyond him (just like Mancini is). He would have had to compete with them if was only a striker, and we all know he wouldnt come anywhere for a mere second.

He is played on the wings because firstly even if Palla is a forward first, he is more of a side striker, like Di Natale, who can roam to the sides. Play wing isnt that alien to him. But most importantly, he is played in midfield and in the wings, to FIND space and time for Palla in the team. As said he has no hope in our attack.

If we now have come tot terms with why he has zero hope in the attack, the two wings he has played in, right and left. Well lets just say the right was because we had no options and it was desperate measure to fit him in because we had no one else. But Palla on the right is the place he is virtually nonexistent in, he is totally useless there more then he is in the left or forward (and he hasnt performed anything the others, but much much less so in the right). While in the left is his natural side because can cross there, and as a forward its his favoured side. Actually seen him in the Azzurrini play left win in a 4-3-3 formation (much like Giovinco is now). Its not alien to him. But he has failed to impress there to.

So at the end of the day, who is it to blame for not being good enough? No one else but the player who has done crap despite ample chances to prove himself. And please dont come with age, the dude is 24 frigging years old.

We would have given up on him way long time ago if he was someone we bought, and not a primavera player. Even if he isnt good enough, still wouldnt say sell him. Despite not being good enough, give him a last and 3rd season of showing himself worthy from the bench. Otherwise, can be not good enough elsewhere.