Alvaro Morata (79 Viewers)

[Seven]

I love the guy, but Morata is seriously overvalued in here. If he was playing for any other team you'd never rate him as a 65 million player.

Which is demonstrated by the fact that he was a bench player for a lot of this season.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Morata and I'd be very happy if he stayed. I think he has loads of potential and I'd prefer him over Lukaku every time. But if he played for another team and they asked us 65 million, no way people here would agree.

 

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[Xperd]

It would be justified if Morata is starting games for us and regularly influencing games week in week out,but he aint doing that right now.
He's invaluable as a substitute but not as much as a starter right now.

I would've gone for this asking price if we dint have other issues to fix but unfortunately we do.Top quality midfielders are of dire need for this team.

 

[Marc]

I can confirm that Morata is most definitely not a WC forward.

Yet

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Yes, let's not sign him because of a bad game against Sevilla. Never mind the whole team was struggling at that point. Never mind he has proven his quality on many other occasions.

Maybe we should have sold Del Piero after Euro 2000

Are you comparing Morata to Del Piero? If so you're

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I call BS, Morata played 2 seasons and his inconsistencies and inability to be bona-fide stud near weekly game changer is on him, not others. Dybala unlike Morata showed there is no doubt whatsoever who is the main guy since his first games, and he kept his place by consistently making the difference. Morata in reverse regressed as in despite the headstart of a season he lost his spot by not being reliable enough starter.

Don't make excuses for him, hope he improves instead, but Dybala defenitely superior.

Well said. +rep

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I love the guy, but Morata is seriously overvalued in here. If he was playing for any other team you'd never rate him as a 65 million player.

 

[Vlad]

55m of an investment in a 22 yo striker, that has proven to be important for our CL ambitions and has been scoring in some of the biggest games of the past two years, seems reasonable. More so considering situation on the market. The guy equalled Del Piero's record when it comes to consecutive CL goals, FFS. There's another benefit, he is extremely popular worldwide and players like him can help us to improve our apeal further. The potential income from jersey sales and marketing will offset those 55m anyway.

I find it laughable that people want to sign Jesus for high fee, while they've never watched the guy, but additional 30-35m for Morata is expensive. Morata played 2381 minutes and had 14 goals and 9 assists; 103 minute per g/a.

 

[Dominic]

Which is demonstrated by the fact that he was a bench player for a lot of this season.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Morata and I'd be very happy if he stayed. I think he has loads of potential and I'd prefer him over Lukaku every time. But if he played for another team and they asked us 65 million, no way people here would agree.

The sky is the limit for Morata though. We'd regret it so much, when he becomes the seasons CL top scorer in a couple of seasons for another team.

 

[Marc]

The sky is the limit for Morata though. We'd regret it so much, when he becomes the seasons CL top scorer in a couple of seasons for another team.

He doesn't strike me as a player who will outscore Dybala. Even in CL.

 

[Mohad]

I love the guy, but Morata is seriously overvalued in here. If he was playing for any other team you'd never rate him as a 65 million player.

 

[JuveJay]

He doesn't strike me as a player who will outscore Dybala. Even in CL.

He did this season

 

[Marc]

He did this season

That's only because Morata has more CL experience, in my opinion.

 

[zizinho]

We will have paid 55 mil if the deal goes through. Secondly, we will have the payment split into 20mil and 35mil with a gap of 2 years.

If the deal won't happen good luck finding a replacement. Pushing the price down would be nice but I wouldn't fuck around for too long. Negotiation partners have proven to be allergic to Beppe's 3-month sagas

people are overthinking this. you are given a chance to buy a potential no.1 CF in the world for 35M and you do it. try to negotiate the price down if possible but if not then we should pay what Real wants. we can get Kovacic on loan and another midfielder once we sell Hernanes, Pereyra and Asamoah

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55m of an investment in a 22 yo striker, that has proven to be important for our CL ambitions and has been scoring in some of the biggest games of the past two years, seems reasonable. More so considering situation on the market. The guy equalled Del Piero's record when it comes to consecutive CL goals, FFS. There's another benefit, he is extremely popular worldwide and players like him can help us to improve our apeal further. The potential income from jersey sales and marketing will offset those 55m anyway.

I find it laughable that people want to sign Jesus for high fee, while they've never watched the guy, but additional 30-35m for Morata is expensive. Morata played 2381 minutes and had 14 goals and 9 assists; 103 minute per g/a.

well said

 

[Juliano13]

people are overthinking this. you are given a chance to buy a potential no.1 CF in the world for 35M and you do it. try to negotiate the price down if possible but if not then we should pay what Real wants. we can get Kovacic on loan and another midfielder once we sell Hernanes, Pereyra and Asamoah

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well said

Lock this thread, please. The level of retardation is beyond any acceptable limit. If we pay 35m to Real Madrid to keep him, that makes him worth 65m. Even if he lets the entire team and fanbase gangbang him, he won't be worth 65m.

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He's not even a starter here and for a good reason.

 

[zizinho]

Lock this thread, please. The level of retardation is beyond any acceptable limit. If we pay 35m to Real Madrid to keep him, that makes him worth 65m. Even if he lets the entire team and fanbase gangbang him, he won't be worth 65m.

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He's not even a starter here and for a good reason.

We won't lock a thread of a Juventus player lol

 

[Signora Omicidi]

55m of an investment in a 22 yo striker, that has proven to be important for our CL ambitions and has been scoring in some of the biggest games of the past two years, seems reasonable. More so considering situation on the market. The guy equalled Del Piero's record when it comes to consecutive CL goals, FFS. There's another benefit, he is extremely popular worldwide and players like him can help us to improve our apeal further. The potential income from jersey sales and marketing will offset those 55m anyway.

I find it laughable that people want to sign Jesus for high fee, while they've never watched the guy, but additional 30-35m for Morata is expensive. Morata played 2381 minutes and had 14 goals and 9 assists; 103 minute per g/a.

He is soon going to be 24 years old.he is not young any more.strikers like Cavani and Suarez at this age were scoring +30 for their teams.

His goal scoring record doesn't justify his price tag , and at this rate i don't expect him to score +20 next season for us either.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I love the guy, but Morata is seriously overvalued in here. If he was playing for any other team you'd never rate him as a 65 million player.

Which is demonstrated by the fact that he was a bench player for a lot of this season.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Morata and I'd be very happy if he stayed. I think he has loads of potential and I'd prefer him over Lukaku every time. But if he played for another team and they asked us 65 million, no way people here would agree.

65m is outrageous for a club like Juventus that doesnt have money like oil clubs to burn.

35M or whatever it takes should be spent on players that would walk into our starting lineup like Pjanic.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Get Morata to stay here. Sky is the limit for the kid, he has been clutch to our campaigns, played better than Lewandowski when Juventus lost against Bayern. Obviously if Zaza explodes in the Euros we have a problem, but its one of those nice problems to have.

 

[Juliano13]

Morata is not going to a third team. Either he stays or he returns to Real. No team will pay more than 40, 45m max, which means that Real will only profit 10 to 15m. We can pay them 10m and keep him. If they want him for themselves, then its a different story.

 

[italiacalcio10]

We also need to be thinking about marketability. Morata isn't that marketable. If we're going to invest 50+ million in a player, that player had better bring more eyeballs to Juve, and sell more shirts. Not only is Morata hardly a 50 million player, but he has average marketability. Compare that to Paul Pogba, where you have celebrities wearing his kit. Balotelli also had huge marketability, but unfortunately he was a tool. This is one of the reasons I advocate for James Rodriguez - he has a monopoly on the Colombian market, is young, a true gamebreaker (watch the Coppa so far), suits a positional need, and is a gamebreaker. There are no other players who could be feasibly purchases and could be available with that kind of talent and marketability.

If you pay that kind of sum for a player:
1) It shouldn't be a prima punta, rather a seconda punta/ trequartista, due to the ability of the latter to improve players around him,
2) He'd better be marketable, which Morata is nothing special
3) A sure-fire first teamer, which is difficult when you have Mandzukic ahead in the depth charts.

If Madrid will take Morata + 35-40, spread over 3 years, you do it IMO. The marketability of Dybala, Rodriguez, and Pogba could really do a lot for the brand.

If fact, it is rumoured that despite Zidane not wanting James, Perez simply wants to retain him for his marketability.

 

[zizinho]

Morata is not going to a third team. Either he stays or he returns to Real. No team will pay more than 40, 45m max, which means that Real will only profit 10 to 15m. We can pay them 10m and keep him. If they want him for themselves, then its a different story.

I wonder how you know this

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He is soon going to be 24 years old.he is not young any more.strikers like Cavani and Suarez at this age were scoring +30 for their teams.

His goal scoring record doesn't justify his price tag , and at this rate i don't expect him to score +20 next season for us either.

Why is everyone fixated on his goal scoring record. We can win Serie A with Morata scoring 0 goals but our chances to win CL drop from 30% to 20% without Morata in the team (random numbers). What he brings to the team in CL is much more worth than scoring 15-20 goals in the league purely money wise. + the guy is very marketable, he was on the PES cover last year. Easily justified adding another 35M on top of the 20M we already paid if it comes down to that

 

[Elvin]

not to mention he is still young as fuck.

 

[Salvo]

Morata is not going to a third team. Either he stays or he returns to Real. No team will pay more than 40, 45m max, which means that Real will only profit 10 to 15m. We can pay them 10m and keep him. If they want him for themselves, then its a different story.

If someone goes as far as 50 I'd match, I think we would as well.