Alvaro Morata (34 Viewers)
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Osaman is spot on. Morata is yet to score anywhere near 20 goals in the league. He isn't WC let alone elite.
He has WC potential, and currently, he's performing in big games quite consistently (only the best have that ability, so good signs) and generally plays well against teams who play an open game and struggles to score against ones who're compact at the back.
He has some similarities with Boniek, who was called Bello di Notte (Beauty of the Night) for his performances in the big, evening games. Currently, Morata is also playing a similar role in the Zona Mista. Hope he turns out to be half the player Boniek was. He certainly has the potential.
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And don't be overly excited about what Morata said. Last week or the week before, he said he doesn't know where he'll play next season, that he's just focused on this season ATM.
Where he'll play next season will depend on 1) how much playing time he'll get, and 2) how competitive Juve will be and what he can win as a professional.
If we win the scudetto and do well in the CL again (well doesn't have to be another final) and if Real doesn't sell Bale, then he'll remain with us. If we finish third (we won't) and get knocked out in the 2nd round of the CL and if Real sells Bale (that'd make Morata the 5th attacking option out of 4 starting spots which means a good number of games), he'll go.
Real selling Bale wouldn't be surprising. But I think we'll end up having a decent season. Odds are he'll remain with us.
He has WC potential, and currently, he's performing in big games quite consistently (only the best have that ability, so good signs) and generally plays well against teams who play an open game and struggles to score against ones who're compact at the back.
He has some similarities with Boniek, who was called Bello di Notte (Beauty of the Night) for his performances in the big, evening games. Currently, Morata is also playing a similar role in the Zona Mista. Hope he turns out to be half the player Boniek was. He certainly has the potential.
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And don't be overly excited about what Morata said. Last week or the week before, he said he doesn't know where he'll play next season, that he's just focused on this season ATM.
Where he'll play next season will depend on 1) how much playing time he'll get, and 2) how competitive Juve will be and what he can win as a professional.
If we win the scudetto and do well in the CL again (well doesn't have to be another final) and if Real doesn't sell Bale, then he'll remain with us. If we finish third (we won't) and get knocked out in the 2nd round of the CL and if Real sells Bale (that'd make Morata the 5th attacking option out of 4 starting spots which means a good number of games), he'll go.
Real selling Bale wouldn't be surprising. But I think we'll end up having a decent season. Odds are he'll remain with us.
He will have a tough decition to make.
Here in Juve, he has happyness and everything he needs to develop as a great footballer.
Madrid works differently..and unless you are a ronaldo/messi like figure...nothing is guaranteed. One day you are the hero, the other you are fired. Also some changes will have to be made to accomodate him, and selling bale would be interesting for Florentino, who was all in to buy bale.
If he returns to madrid and fuck it up--he will throw like 2 or 3 good years of his career into the toilet.
IMO, he doesnt fit into real madrid´s ideology. He will be just another toy and be disposed of like di maria was.
Here in Juve, he has happyness and everything he needs to develop as a great footballer.
Madrid works differently..and unless you are a ronaldo/messi like figure...nothing is guaranteed. One day you are the hero, the other you are fired. Also some changes will have to be made to accomodate him, and selling bale would be interesting for Florentino, who was all in to buy bale.
If he returns to madrid and fuck it up--he will throw like 2 or 3 good years of his career into the toilet.
IMO, he doesnt fit into real madrid´s ideology. He will be just another toy and be disposed of like di maria was.
losing pogba would hurt massively, especially in terms of marketing, but tactically we could cope without him. especially if we decide to switch to 4-2-3-1.
back four
Khedira/lemina-Marchisio/asamoah
cuadrado/berardi-dybala--new winger
-----------morata/madzukic--------
losing morata would suck. mainly because of how important he is in big games. but we could also cope without him if mandzukic and dybala gel in. a lot will depend on them to lessen the impact of his loss. ideally though he would stay
back four
Khedira/lemina-Marchisio/asamoah
cuadrado/berardi-dybala--new winger
-----------morata/madzukic--------
losing morata would suck. mainly because of how important he is in big games. but we could also cope without him if mandzukic and dybala gel in. a lot will depend on them to lessen the impact of his loss. ideally though he would stay
I dont know what this has to do with what i said.
Im not saying in which team players can better show good level. What i wanted to mean is that real madrid is retarded and loves to throw players into the toilet when said players were quality, without any consideration (makelele, morientes, etoo, robben, di maria..the list goes on).
Morata being just "good" there is not enuff for florentino and co. If he is just good,,he will have to settle to share the bench and minutes with someone else. If he is not having a stellar season...he can risk spending a couple seasons of irregular playtime....only to regret going to madrid and asking for a transfer.
He went thru that with them already. I hope he makes the right decition.
Im not saying in which team players can better show good level. What i wanted to mean is that real madrid is retarded and loves to throw players into the toilet when said players were quality, without any consideration (makelele, morientes, etoo, robben, di maria..the list goes on).
Morata being just "good" there is not enuff for florentino and co. If he is just good,,he will have to settle to share the bench and minutes with someone else. If he is not having a stellar season...he can risk spending a couple seasons of irregular playtime....only to regret going to madrid and asking for a transfer.
He went thru that with them already. I hope he makes the right decition.
Well, i see what you say and i'd agree with it, but its Real Madrid. Notorious for wrecking careers of great players. attempting to wreck careers of great players who had the mental strength to succeed, and were succeeding on the field, but wrecked it anyway cause "real madrid".
Morientes. Clutch as fuck, clinical as fuck. Nah, we want flair and fancy penis in anus. So we sell Morientes and get some strapon. Season afterwards, monaco eliminates real madrid. Guess who was the deciding player ? Morientez.
Clutch hero's, are not wanted by real madrid.
Yeah, tactically speaking, considering his testicular amputation compared to Khedira's impact and Marchisio's consistant excellence, losing Pogba doesnt mean that much in the direct future.
Morientes. Clutch as fuck, clinical as fuck. Nah, we want flair and fancy penis in anus. So we sell Morientes and get some strapon. Season afterwards, monaco eliminates real madrid. Guess who was the deciding player ? Morientez.
Clutch hero's, are not wanted by real madrid.
Yeah, tactically speaking, considering his testicular amputation compared to Khedira's impact and Marchisio's consistant excellence, losing Pogba doesnt mean that much in the direct future.
Current Pogba maybe doesnt.... but we need to be 100% sure that he will not be the great pogba we think he will be before selling.... otherwise we will regret it for the rest of our lives. So IMO too soon to give a verdict on him. He has given us like 3 years of great quality, we cant ditch a talent like him as if.
Moving from systems with 3-man midfields to 4231 would be expensive both in terms of learning curve and the transfer market. I don't see it happening. I'm pretty sure Allegri will stick with 433 or Zona Mista as his primary formation. Probably 433 because he won't be lacking a RB like he is now.
We can switch between 433, 352, 4312, and a Zona Mista with 3 in midfield relatively easily because all of them are dynamically the same in the middle with a 3-man midfield. Moving to 4231 would be a bigger change that'd require more serious tactical shuffling. And it wouldn't be easy for us to switch back to 352 or 4312 in certain games. Also, Dybala is best as a SS, not a treq.
We already need to sign Cuadrado, Berardi, and probably a LWF/LAM on top of that. Switching to 4231 would mean signing yet another attacking player on top of that which probably isn't feasible.
Pogba is our best player and one of the best CMs in the world when in form, but we may be able to replace him with another decent mezzala. The new CM just won't be as good as an in-form Polpo, won't have Ballon D'or winning potential like Pogba does, and just not being able to see Pogba in our colors would hurt, but we could do a decent job of replacing him, and the $ Pogba's sale would generate would enhance quality in other positions as well.
Good CFs are hard to find, and quality in that position is even more important, so Morata's sale would hit us harder. Mandzukic is a good Llorente replacement. He simply isn't good enough to lead our attack.
More chance of Pogba leaving than Morata though.
We can switch between 433, 352, 4312, and a Zona Mista with 3 in midfield relatively easily because all of them are dynamically the same in the middle with a 3-man midfield. Moving to 4231 would be a bigger change that'd require more serious tactical shuffling. And it wouldn't be easy for us to switch back to 352 or 4312 in certain games. Also, Dybala is best as a SS, not a treq.
We already need to sign Cuadrado, Berardi, and probably a LWF/LAM on top of that. Switching to 4231 would mean signing yet another attacking player on top of that which probably isn't feasible.
Pogba is our best player and one of the best CMs in the world when in form, but we may be able to replace him with another decent mezzala. The new CM just won't be as good as an in-form Polpo, won't have Ballon D'or winning potential like Pogba does, and just not being able to see Pogba in our colors would hurt, but we could do a decent job of replacing him, and the $ Pogba's sale would generate would enhance quality in other positions as well.
Good CFs are hard to find, and quality in that position is even more important, so Morata's sale would hit us harder. Mandzukic is a good Llorente replacement. He simply isn't good enough to lead our attack.
More chance of Pogba leaving than Morata though.
