Able Xavier Converts to Islam (32 Viewers)

[IrishZebra]

come read that in ireland I'll sue you.

 

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[king Ale]

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus


Thats basically it..

No it's not. Him not preventing evil doesn't mean he's malevolent.

Don't get where you're coming from..

Here:

Either he did create the world in which natural disasters kill people or he didn't.

Let's say he did.

If he did, he knew it would happen - he knows everything.

He knew, yes.

What's more, he could have easily prevented it - he's all powerfull

Why should he have prevented it?

 

[Martin]

No it's not. Him not preventing evil doesn't mean he's malevolent.



Here:



Let's say he did.



He knew, yes.



Why should he have prevented it?

Because he's merciful and loving and would never want the people he created and loves so much be hurt? At least that's what the commercial says. "Embrace god because he loves you", no? Or is that only on Christian tv?

 

[king Ale]

I'm not going to say that he's merciful but natural disasters killing people doesn't make the creator (if he exists) cruel.

Btw, why do you mention people dying of natural disasters but you don't mention natural causes (like heart attacks, senility, etc) which lead to deaths of people? Aren't they the same?

 

[Martin]

I'm not going to say that he's merciful but natural disasters killing people doesn't make the creator (if he exists) cruel.

Of course it does. He's all powerful, he so can create any world he wants to. Including one without natural disasters. This he chose not to do.

It's all there, when you follow the logic of the theology.

Btw, why do you mention people dying of natural disasters but you don't mention natural causes (like heart attacks, senility, etc) which lead to deaths of people? Aren't they the same?

Broadly speaking, all causes of death are the same in that they are caused by the "first cause" which is god.

 

[Eddy]

I'm not going to say that he's merciful but natural disasters killing people doesn't make the creator (if he exists) cruel.

Btw, why do you mention people dying of natural disasters but you don't mention natural causes (like heart attacks, senility, etc) which lead to deaths of people? Aren't they the same?

Of course it is

 

[Ventus]

lol this thread is still going

 

[JCK]

lol

 

[king Ale]

Of course it does. He's all powerful, he so can create any world he wants to. Including one without natural disasters. This he chose not to do.

Broadly speaking, all causes of death are the same in that they are caused by the "first cause" which is god.

So you mean a world without natural disasters as well as natural causes of death. A world without death is that what you mean?

 

[Enron]

It's alright for God to be an angry S.O.B.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Of course it does. He's all powerful, he so can create any world he wants to. Including one without natural disasters. This he chose not to do.

It's all there, when you follow the logic of the theology.



Broadly speaking, all causes of death are the same in that they are caused by the "first cause" which is god.

Agreed.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

So you mean a world without natural disasters as well as natural causes of death. A world without death is that what you mean?

You need to read the book The Giver.

 

[Martin]

So you mean a world without natural disasters as well as natural causes of death. A world without death is that what you mean?

In theory, yes. Look, it's not me who invented this theology. I'm just taking it to the logical conclusion.

Theologically speaking, a god who loves the people he created, would he let them live or would he kill them? Now recall that he is not merely merciful and loving, he is merciful and loving to the infinite degree (we are told).

 

[Zé Tahir]

Death is part of life. Nothing to do with mercy.

 

[Martin]

Death is part of life. Nothing to do with mercy.

Great, so that means you don't mind if someone were to end yours in 5 minutes?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Great, so that means you don't mind if someone were to end yours in 5 minutes?

If that "someone" is God, yes I don't mind.

 

[Martin]

Good answer How about "a messenger from god"? :eyebrows:

 

[Zé Tahir]

A messenger from God comes for the good of mankind not for its destruction. If a "messenger" wanted me dead I wouldn't accept him as a messenger.

 

[Enron]

In theory, yes. Look, it's not me who invented this theology. I'm just taking it to the logical conclusion.

Theologically speaking, a god who loves the people he created, would he let them live or would he kill them? Now recall that he is not merely merciful and loving, he is merciful and loving to the infinite degree (we are told).

No you're not. God flooded the earth killing most of the population, destroyed the cities of Soddom and Gamorra, dished out deadly smiting, and picked on a guy named Job just cause. Old Testament is god the Tarantino version.

 

[swag]

Is it customary to leave the messenger a tip or gratuity for good service?