A Thought Experiment (3 Viewers)

[Zé Tahir]

Exactly. Now we've reached a level, where we sit down to discuss and argue whether fucking your own mother is moral or not. Oh how low we have steeped.

Right, but burka/hijaab is still so wrong

 

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[Dinsdale]

Exactly. Now we've reached a level, where we sit down to discuss and argue whether fucking your own mother is moral or not. Oh how low we have steeped.

But the main idea is another attempt of Juve Rev to show that objective moral judgement exists.

 

[Elvin]

Go fuck your mother/sister, then let us know how it feels, Mr. Moral Discussion

 

[Fred]

What if your adopted?

Well then we can have a discussion about morality.

But first, you watch too much porn

You say it's wrong because it's against human instinct. We're hardwired to be disgusted with it because for thousands of years sex usually led to pregnancy.

So the only problem in all of this is that it might cause pregnancy?

Meaning, you wouldn't have a problem with it if pregnancy were guaranteed not to happen?

Nope, it is completely disrespectful to an institution that is probably the most valuable and critical institution in our society. That institution is called the family.

it's called the offseason

Indeed

Okay so instead we should just take your word for it that it's wrong?

The very fact that you would criticize moral discussion is pretty hair raising to me.

I find it troubling that you would have to take my word to know that incest is wrong.

 

[Byrone]

If being mentally slow is a way to determine someone was the result of incest then incest must be a lot more common than we like to think.

Well certain groups that have arranged marriages tend to "keep it in the family" either marrying cousins or siblings & this does occur.

But i do get what your saying,we do have a few members that are mentally slow though.

 

[Fred]

Right, but burka/hijaab is still so wrong

Yup. Cannot believe these people sometimes. They have no problem with someone fucking his sister/mother, but a woman wearing a piece of cloth on her head, that's just unacceptable

 

[Byrone]

Well then we can have a discussion about morality.

But first, you watch too much porn

I think thats what Juve Rev is trying to get to.

Honestly chances are if you have an internet connection & a pc/laptop you do watch porn.

 

[Ahmed]

that's the primary reason for the creation of the Internet

 

[Dinsdale]

So the only problem in all of this is that it might cause pregnancy?

Meaning, you wouldn't have a problem with it if pregnancy were guaranteed not to happen?

Nope, it is completely disrespectful to an institution that is probably the most valuable and critical institution in our society. That institution is called the family.

From a moral perspective, no (unless it would cause any other harm besides pregnancy). I think you have a hard time understanding this because you can't separate moral judgement from emotions.

Yup. Cannot believe these people sometimes. They have no problem with someone fucking his sister/mother, but a woman wearing a piece of cloth on her head, that's just unacceptable

Of course we all find it disgusting FFS.

 

[Fred]

From a moral perspective, no (unless it would cause any other harm besides pregnancy). I think you have a hard time understanding this because you can't separate moral judgement from emotions.



Of course we all find it disgusting FFS.

From a moral perspective? Your making it sound like there is only one moral perspective, i thought you didn't believe in an objective moral standard


If you believe in moral relativism, then you wouldn't say that.

 

[Martin]

From a moral perspective? Your making it sound like there is only one moral perspective, i thought you didn't believe in an objective moral standard


If you believe in moral relativism, then you wouldn't say that.

But on the basis of disgust alone, I think gay sex is pretty disgusting too. So therefore it's immoral right? Why don't we make up laws based on what I'm personally comfortable with.

 

[Dinsdale]

From a moral perspective? Your making it sound like there is only one moral perspective, i thought you didn't believe in an objective moral standard


If you believe in moral relativism, then you wouldn't say that.

I believe moral judgement is deduced from the current status of the outside world, not induced from some divine source.

Before there were any methods of birth control, incest was definitely immoral.

 

[Ahmed]

but now that there are those methods, it's OK?

 

[Dinsdale]

But on the basis of disgust alone, I think gay sex is pretty disgusting too. So therefore it's immoral right? Why don't we make up laws based on what I'm personally comfortable with.

Now that you mention it, what's more worrying: people analyzing everything purely rationally, or people unable to rationalize certain topics because they can't isolate their emotional bias?

 

[Stephan]

But on the basis of disgust alone, I think gay sex is pretty disgusting too. So therefore it's immoral right? Why don't we make up laws based on what I'm personally comfortable with.

are the gays related?

 

[Martin]

Now that you mention it, what's more worrying: people analyzing everything purely rationally, or people unable to rationalize certain topics because they can't isolate their emotional bias?

What's wrong with analyzing rationally?

 

[Dinsdale]

but now that there are those methods, it's OK?

Stop using vague and in this context undefined concepts like 'OK'.

 

[Fred]

But on the basis of disgust alone, I think gay sex is pretty disgusting too. So therefore it's immoral right? Why don't we make up laws based on what I'm personally comfortable with.

Well ya. But thats another story for another day.

I believe moral judgement is deduced from the current status of the outside world, not induced from some divine source.

Before there were any methods of birth control, incest was definitely immoral.

You just said it, you believe that "moral judgement is deduced from the current status of the outside world". I don't.

In a moral discussion where you believe in moral relativism. You cannot establish that i'm wrong.

Before there were any methods of birth control, incest was definitely immoral.

I feel very uncomfortable with this statement

 

[Dinsdale]

What's wrong with analyzing rationally?

Nothing that's the whole point.

 

[Ahmed]

Stop using vague and in this context undefined concepts like 'OK'.

OK = Okay = Alright = Acceptable = Tolerable

Is that clear enough? please analyse rationally before you respond