A new war in Yemen (1 Viewer)

[ReBeL]

It just started.

10 countries are taking part in the attacks on the Houthi military sites in Yemen...

 

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[Zé Tahir]

Says a lot about Saudi and the Gulf states, that they're more worried about some Shia rebels than the presence of crazy ass ISIS and Al Qaeda in the region.

The Shia boogieman is stronk.

 

[Dostoevsky]

It just started.

10 countries are taking part in the attacks on the Houthi military sites in Yemen...

Who?

 

[ReBeL]

Who?

Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Kuwait
Bahrain
Qatar
Jordan
Morocco
Sudan
Egypt
Pakistan

 

[TrezJuve]

Morocco?

 

[Klovn]

Apparently yes. I read about it this morning.

 

[ReBeL]

Morocco?

Yes

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The countries that are against the attacks so far:

Iran
Syria
Iraq
and behind them Russia, of course

 

[Osman]

Why, what is it about? And I know Ze mentionned it already, but especially after what happend in Tunisia, why arent they mobilizing like this against ISIS?

 

[ReBeL]

The neutral countries so far:

Oman
Algeria

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For those who want to see the current situation, here is a map showing why this started

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Yemen_Insurgency_detailed_map

Houthi rebels who are from Sa'dah in the north decided to occupy the whole land and to remove the president just because they feel they are strong enough to do it.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Pakistan has been asked to join but hasn't signed up yet. Would be extremely retarded to do so.

 

[ReBeL]

Today, Iran, which is under a U.S. protectorate, has come to dominate four Arab countries - Iraq, Syria, Yemen and a major part of Lebanon. After Houthi rebels seized power in Sana'a, Yemen, Ali Reza Zakani, a member of the Iranian parliament, said: "Three Arab capitals have today ended up in the hands of Iran and belong to the Islamic Iranian revolution," adding that Sana'a has become the fourth Arab capital that is on its way to joining the Iranian revolution. Furthermore, during a recent conference on Iranian identity, Ali Younesi, a senior advisor to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, said in a more uninhibited manner that Baghdad is the capital of their growing empire.

Younesi's following remarks, which send out "goodness" to the region, are significant in seeing that this imperialistic ambition and the expansionist desire to export this revolution are not limited to four countries alone: "We will defend all the peoples of the region [the Middle East], because we consider them as a part of Iran. We will fight Islamic extremism, Takfiris [apostates], atheists, neo-Ottomans, Wahhabists, the West and Zionism."

http://www.dailysabah.com/columns/hilal_kaplan/2015/03/20/neopersian-empire

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Pakistan has been asked to join but hasn't signed up yet. Would be extremely retarded to do so.

(Reuters) - Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's office said on Thursday any threat to Saudi Arabia would "evoke a strong response" from Islamabad.

Sharif chaired a "high-level meeting" in which he said Pakistan enjoyed close and brotherly relations with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Cooperation Council countries.

Saudi Arabia and Gulf allies launched military operations including air strikes in Yemen on Thursday, Saudi officials said, to counter Iran-allied forces besieging the southern city of Aden, where the U.S.-supported Yemeni president had taken refuge.

"The meeting concluded that any threat to Saudi Arabia’s territorial integrity would evoke a strong response from Pakistan," Sharif's office said.

Pakistan would send a delegation, including military officials, to Saudi Arabia on Friday, the statement said.

Pakistan was considering a request from Saudi Arabia for troops to send to Yemen, the foreign office said on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/26/us-yemen-security-pakistan-sharif-idUSKBN0MM2B420150326

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Now, Erdogan called Iran to take its forces immediately from Yemen, Syria and Iraq. He said that the Irani behavior is annoying Gulf countries and Turkey. He said Turkey is ready to provide logistic help to Saudi Arabia...

http://t24.com.tr/haber/erdogan-iran-yemen-suriye-ve-iraktaki-gucu-kuvveti-ne-varsa-cekmesi-lazim,291669

 

[Zé Tahir]

I find it funny to hear Iran being referred to as an American protectorate with all the sanctions they've been under and are still under. Also find the double standards funny with this whole situation. Saudi and Gulf states to an extent have so much influence in the region it's ridiculous but as soon as Iran tries to expand its reach people freak out. Saudi backed Wahabbism funds madrisa's all over Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia (to name a few) which are breeding grounds for extremism. Meanwhile Al Qaeda and ISIS, which threaten the whole region irrespective of sect are almost completely ignored. They are not only a threat to the region but a disgrace to Islam. Yet Saudi's, the so called protectors of Mecca & Medina, have done nothing to stop them. In fact this proves their involvement with these groups on some level.

 

[ReBeL]

Now, the Iraqi vise president Nouri Malki is calling UN to stop the attacks against Houthis in Yemen.
The master of double standards

 

[Raz]

What the hell is wrong with that region.. All they wanna do is shoot, kill and destroy :/

 

[swag]

Democracy doesn't work there. At least yet. Democracy works when you find a way to civilly live with leadership you voted against. They have no clue how to do that there yet, and Yemen faces too many intractable problems of poverty to overcome first and foremost.

The U.S. is barely hanging on to being able to do that itself these days.

 

[ALC]

Democracy doesn't work there. At least yet. Democracy works when you find a way to civilly live with leadership you voted against. They have no clue how to do that there yet, and Yemen faces too many intractable problems of poverty to overcome first and foremost.

The U.S. is barely hanging on to being able to do that itself these days.

Good point.

 

[Zé Tahir]

What the hell is wrong with that region.. All they wanna do is shoot, kill and destroy :/

Common Raz, you're smarter than that. People will behave the same way if put in similar situations. What sets us apart is what decisions we make. The Middle East has been making the wrong decisions for several centuries now.

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Democracy doesn't work there. At least yet. Democracy works when you find a way to civilly live with leadership you voted against. They have no clue how to do that there yet, and Yemen faces too many intractable problems of poverty to overcome first and foremost.

The U.S. is barely hanging on to being able to do that itself these days.

It's also a mistake to think Democracy is the end all be all.

 

[Raz]

It's a rethorical question, I'm just really sad that all the news that comes from that region is of that sort Plus this doesn't help that most of the boneheads here in west will have even worse opinion about that region without thinking anything apart the news they get from tv...

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It's also a mistake to think Democracy is the end all be all.

Not to sound like a nut, but why would there has to be democracy there? Maybe it's not their way?

 

[ReBeL]

By the Yemeni artist Arwa Moukbel...

 

[Osman]

Democracy doesn't work there. At least yet. Democracy works when you find a way to civilly live with leadership you voted against. They have no clue how to do that there yet, and Yemen faces too many intractable problems of poverty to overcome first and foremost.

The U.S. is barely hanging on to being able to do that itself these days.

Vert true, but also hard to gradually and naturally evolve to functioning civil society when you are being massively controlled and pushed around by foreign powers since you were founded as a nation, wether its the old colonial European powers, US or the regional Sunni/shiite powers.


I lived in Yemen as a kid (21 years ago), and still have relatives who go there from time to time. They all say its gotten ALOT ALOT worse, and the country I lived in wasnt a pretty picture back then.