A Blame of Thrones: Mafia Game (12 Viewers)

[Fred]

Fred

@Kate, can this be counted? I'm not sure if I can make it during day time today.

So typical of you Klin, if you're a C. You really need to be a little more creative.

Explain to me, as a G, why I did what I did?

Whats your line of thinking here? That Hoori is a G, and I saved her? That I saved Salvo with Hoori being a smokescreen, I'm trying to understand your theory of what happened. Because really, any way you put it, if I am a G. I probably played the worst game a G could play in the first day.

 

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[Salvo]

I'd go for Hoori tonight, she seems off. It is however odd for Fred to make such a rookie mistake, at the same time he might not be so careless if he were a G.

 

[Bezzy]

Fred's vote makes him a #1 suspect, indeed.

I'm going through every scenario right now in which at least one of them would be a G.

Salvo and Hoori are on two votes for quite some time -> If Salvo is the G and Hoori a C, we have little to go buy, because Hoori took her vote off Salvo's count simply to save herself by voting with a player with more heat. Then again, when Hoori voted for Radekas, Janna had two votes, so why didn't Hoori vote for Janna, especially since she suspected that I am a G who told Janna to say that thing at the beginning?
If Hoori is the G, then once again, why did she vote for Radekas and not for Janna?

Is it possible that both Hoori and Janna were Gs? Probably not, because Janna voted Klin and she was online all the time.

I'm talking in a confused way, but nothing makes sense here, except that all of them were civilians.
If Fred was protecting a G (Hoori or Janna), then who is the G? Janna? If it's Janna, why did Janna vote for Klin and not for Hoori? If it's Hoori, why did she vote for Radekas and not for Janna? If they are both, once again, why did Janna vote Klin and not Radekas? It would have made more sense than to involve Fred.

I think they are all civilians (Hoori, Janna, Fred).

I think hoori is a c i know i am a c. I am not sure about fred.
I still would go with you or fred today

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Fred wouldn't have done what he did as a C. There's simply no chance in hell. The Gs obviously didn't want to lose one in the first day.











Then all of a sudden, 1 minute before deadline...





That is simply not something Fred as a C would play. Never.

 

[Fred]

I'd go for Hoori tonight, she seems off. It is however odd for Fred to make such a rookie mistake, at the same time he might not be so careless if he were a G.

I think people are focusing too much on yesterdays events, unless a huge mistake was made, usually people who look extremely off in the first day are usually C's caught up in paranoia and/or confusion. It happens time and time again, and we never learn.

I have a huge feeling that none of those involved in yesterday's fracas are G's. That is, me, Janna, Hoori and you. It's a hunch more than anything, so obviously I could be very wrong. Also, after yesterday who the fuck would care who I think is a C

 

[Salvo]

Bezzy who is telling you to play these games? Why are you so certain Hoori is a C?

 

[Salvo]

I still think Hoori is a G along with one of you or janna.

 

[Bezzy]

I think people are focusing too much on yesterdays events, unless a huge mistake was made, usually people who look extremely off in the first day are usually C's caught up in paranoia and/or confusion. It happens time and time again, and we never learn.

I have a huge feeling that none of those involved in yesterday's fracas are G's. That is, me, Janna, Hoori and you. It's a hunch more than anything, so obviously I could be very wrong. Also, after yesterday who the fuck would care who I think is a C

i remember in my first game as a g you were making the same posts. You are clearly sweating cos people suss you. You could really be a g specially with your deciding vote yesterday.

Bezzy who is telling you to play these games? Why are you so certain Hoori is a C?

I think Hoori is a C, because she is really reading into everything. As a g you are most of the time told to act like specially when fred or alen are in your team. Like I said yesterday as a c this game is really fun cos you can say things and really play the mindfucking games. As a g your only goal is to not be suss in the thread.

 

[Salvo]

So quiet in here. I'm not sure I can see your logic there Jana.

 

[piotrr]

I wasn't seriously accusing him. I was fishing for his reaction, and especially for someone "naively" buying my logic and voting for Radekas.
He was paranoid enough to make me change my vote to ALC.

Very nice tactic. 'If i said something weird it's because i was fishing for Gs.'

I don't want to defend you, but that seemed clear to me. You've done that in the previous games too.

Erm you actually sound like a second G that wants to make his words credible.

Do you still think the same now?

Nope.

There is another less obvious option and the more I think about it I still can't rule it out. What if Hoori is a G and Janna really is a special role and the G's are on to her ?

Janna claims a role on the first day,whoever the G's are at least one of them can easily get her to reveal herself to him and her role if she didn't do it herself already, It happened before more then once, and she is not the type of person that cares about winning as much as having fun. Selling her fellow C's to one of the more popular players for giggles is not out of the question, of course it can also be that they tricked her into revealing by claiming a role as well.

two or three games ago when she pulled a similar stunt she was lynched straight away, this time almost none of the experienced players seemed eager to pursue her or put her on the spot which I find fishy in itself. X was jailed, Osman was getting there but was missing for a couple of hours before the deadline and later whacked.

Now the G's have a C with a role in their pocket, and then comes the messy voting. It's Horri, a G with 2, Salvo with 2 and the rest are with one vote, I vote, five minutes from deadline, and it's now Janna with 2 votes as well. with only few minutes to go and having no time to coordinate Fred steps up and votes Radekas to save both Hoori and Janna.

In that case Hoori wouldn't have to vote Janna off and loose the G's a puppet with a role and Janna wont vote Hoori off either because she knows she his working for the same team or for the reasons Alen mentions above (personally I think it's more likely that she was just kept in the dark at that point in regard to who the other G's are and that's might be why she hesitated to vote someone else off)

Now I think that even though Fred voting was risky, and it might happened just because the circumstances of the heretic voting dictated it, it was still a move a player like Fred can cover. The voting was so fishy that selling how unlikely it is for a player like Fred to vote like that is not very difficult and here I got to say that you Alen played that role perfectly, with your intention or not.

Just throwing it out there

I agree, voting makes Janna and Hoori look bad. Don't forget the Gs probably had vote count covered up.

I'd be down with voting Hoori or Alen today. Why Alen? He places 2 irrelevant votes, ALC and then Matt just at the deadline (wasn't counted), why even bringing Matt into this if he had 0 votes on him?
Also it's quite weird that he wants to prove Fred's innocence so much, it was always the other way around (good fred = dead fred). And floods the thread with his analysis - outcome changes with every post.
What would we lose if we voted Alen out? If he's a C - he's still a very probable recruitment candidate, not to mention that the Cs won't follow him because they'll be afraid of being played out.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Very nice tactic. 'If i said something weird it's because i was fishing for Gs.'



Erm you actually sound like a second G that wants to make his words credible.



Nope.



I agree, voting makes Janna and Hoori look bad. Don't forget the Gs probably had vote count covered up.

I'd be down with voting Hoori or Alen today. Why Alen? He places 2 irrelevant votes, ALC and then Matt just at the deadline (wasn't counted), why even bringing Matt into this if he had 0 votes on him?
Also it's quite weird that he wants to prove Fred's innocence so much, it was always the other way around (good fred = dead fred). And floods the thread with his analysis - outcome changes with every post.
What would we lose if we voted Alen out? If he's a C - he's still a very probable recruitment candidate, not to mention that the Cs won't follow him because they'll be afraid of being played out.

whats your take on fred

 

[piotrr]

whats your take on fred

Either he was the only one G online and had to blow his cover or he's clueless and innocent as the rest, can't tell yet that's why i left him out.

 

[Kate]

Fred

@Kate, can this be counted? I'm not sure if I can make it during day time today.

I'm afraid not, love.

 

[Völler]

Reading up on the thread, I think you guys underrate how confusing the lack of vote count made the time just before deadline yesterday. radekas is basically out because of that. I doubt the G's had a better overview of the situation.

I think it's a possibility that Fred, as Klin is suggesting, was trying to save either Salvo, Hoori or Janna. The obvious issue with this theory is that it wasn't necessary for Fred to make himself vulnerable, but I guess the missing vote count could explain that. Still, Fred is an experienced player and him getting radekas voted out in the last minute would just be too obvious.

For that reason, I think it's more likely that the G's were happy with the situation yesterday, and that Bezzy, Hoori and Salvo are C's. That's what I'm leaning towards right now.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Reading up on the thread, I think you guys underrate how confusing the lack of vote count made the time just before deadline yesterday. radekas is basically out because of that. I doubt the G's had a better overview of the situation.

I think it's a possibility that Fred, as Klin is suggesting, was trying to save either Salvo, Hoori or Janna. The obvious issue with this theory is that it wasn't necessary for Fred to make himself vulnerable, but I guess the missing vote count could explain that. Still, Fred is an experienced player and him getting radekas voted out in the last minute would just be too obvious.

For that reason, I think it's more likely that the G's were happy with the situation yesterday, and that Bezzy, Hoori and Salvo are C's. That's what I'm leaning towards right now.

im leaning towards you and fred being Gs

also why is it that only like 7 people are active

 

[Fred]

Reading up on the thread, I think you guys underrate how confusing the lack of vote count made the time just before deadline yesterday. radekas is basically out because of that. I doubt the G's had a better overview of the situation.

I think it's a possibility that Fred, as Klin is suggesting, was trying to save either Salvo, Hoori or Janna. The obvious issue with this theory is that it wasn't necessary for Fred to make himself vulnerable, but I guess the missing vote count could explain that. Still, Fred is an experienced player and him getting radekas voted out in the last minute would just be too obvious.

For that reason, I think it's more likely that the G's were happy with the situation yesterday, and that Bezzy, Hoori and Salvo are C's. That's what I'm leaning towards right now.

I also believe this to be the case tbh. The law of probabilities would suggest so too, I mean what are the odds of G's being in such a tight spot like that in the first day. Think about it there are four g's, the highest number of votes were for Hoori and Salvo, 2 each. G's could easily have spread their votes around and made a couple more people have two votes, and then Hoori could have voted for someone who had two votes. IMO the only way Salvo and Hoori are G's is if the G's were mostly inactive players.

I think we look too much into yesterdays events, when we really shouldnt. As much as that sounds like self serving logic from my side, it almost always is true.

Oh and btw, the mistake I made yesterday, there's a certain somebody who is still laughing his arse off at it. I played right into the hand of that fucker, I think when he reads this, he'll know who he is.

 

[Hængebøffer]

But Fred, why did you jump gun right after Hoori?

And Völler still hasn't told us why he couldn't post the two most important hours. I just think that there were too many inactive players, who were active right after deadline.

 

[Völler]

Erm you actually sound like a second G that wants to make his words credible.

You honestly didn't get the impression he was digging for information? Not that it makes it any less likely he's a G. I just don't think it's an indication of anything. Also, if Alen was my fellow G, why would I take an unnecessary risk by supporting his words in the thread? I really doubt it added to his credibility.

im leaning towards you and fred being Gs

May I ask you why?

 

[Bezzy]

So quiet in here. I'm not sure I can see your logic there Jana.

as a g most people tend to be a bit more defensive playing wise. As a c you can more attack a bit around. Understand what I mean?

 

[piotrr]

You honestly didn't get the impression he was digging for information? Not that it makes it any less likely he's a G. I just don't think it's an indication of anything. Also, if Alen was my fellow G, why would I take an unnecessary risk by supporting his words in the thread? I really doubt it added to his credibility.

It's just something i remembered from my first games as a C, Gs would gang up on me/some statement to show that the majority of 'Cs' think so.

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as a g most people tend to be a bit more defensive playing wise. As a c you can more attack a bit around. Understand what I mean?

So why are you defensive in this game?

 

[Völler]

It's just something i remembered from my first games as a C, Gs would gang up on me/some statement to show that the majority of 'Cs' think so.

It's a fair point.

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