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Bianconero81

Bianconero81

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icemaη said:
You forgot the main one. People were mad when we didn’t give De Ceglie a chance because surely he can’t be worse than Molinaro. Good times :touched: One continued to have a football career and the other became a shitty DJ.
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Molinaro was garbage, so we were desperate for something better. Unfortunately, De Ceglie turned out to be even worse. We have the worst luck with FBs, especially Italian ones. We always buy the ultimate Jabronis for that position - Frabotta, De Shitlio, Molinaro, Motta, De Ceglie, and the list goes on.
 

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DAiDEViL

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Scottish said:
You know why though, don't you? He did not look as good pre-Qatar as he does now, and after the back and forth in the Summer about not wanting to commit to two years it was easy to come to the conclusion that his heart wasn't in it. That train has long since sailed, he is clearly fully on board with the team this season and he's unquestionably our best and most in-form player.
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Is that how the cool kids say it?
 
Scottish

Scottish

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icemaη said:
You forgot the main one. People were mad when we didn’t give De Ceglie a chance because surely he can’t be worse than Molinaro. Good times :touched: One continued to have a football career and the other became a shitty DJ.
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Counter example: Marchisio always showed promise and flashes of brilliance but didnt quite look like a top CM, but we kept giving him game time and eventually he did become that top CM.

Without faith and minutes from successive coaches he could easily have been another boring failed mediocre Italian former prospect.

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DAiDEViL said:
Is that how the cool kids say it?
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:grin:

 
icemaη

icemaη

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Scottish said:
Counter example: Marchisio always showed promise and flashes of brilliance but didnt quite look like a top CM, but we kept giving him game time and eventually he did become that top CM.

Without faith and minutes from successive coaches he could easily have been another boring failed mediocre Italian former prospect.

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Not saying we shouldn't start playing the young ones, on the contrary. We should just temper our expectations. I like both Miretti and Fagioli and IMO both are being given enough chances to prove their worth. Even when the former has been downright poor before his injury. So is Kean, who most of us tend to forget is the same age as Fagioli. But like Alen mentioned none of them have been anywhere near as impressive as the other early 20 year olds we have had in the past decade. But the narrative and expectations around them is that they are going to be the next big thing (I have been guilty of this as well) while realistically only one or two will make it as an important player in a big team. The narrative is always surely X can't be worse than Y. Historically (for us and most other big clubs) it's more likely for X to be worse than Y than the other way around.

Marchisio is the exception that proves the rule IMO. He was also very intelligent on the pitch for his age when he came to play with us in Serie A. Probably got to do with his experience in B and his really good season with Empoli prior to being put in the deep end. He knew how to keep the game ticking without being flashy, even though he had the skill to do that as well. If only we had a Cheesio now. Sigh.
 
Strickland

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icemaη said:
Not saying we shouldn't start playing the young ones, on the contrary. We should just temper our expectations. I like both Miretti and Fagioli and IMO both are being given enough chances to prove their worth. Even when the former has been downright poor before his injury. So is Kean, who most of us tend to forget is the same age as Fagioli. But like Alen mentioned none of them have been anywhere near as impressive as the other early 20 year olds we have had in the past decade. But the narrative and expectations around them is that they are going to be the next big thing (I have been guilty of this as well) while realistically only one or two will make it as an important player in a big team. The narrative is always surely X can't be worse than Y. Historically (for us and most other big clubs) it's more likely for X to be worse than Y than the other way around.

Marchisio is the exception that proves the rule IMO. He was also very intelligent on the pitch for his age when he came to play with us in Serie A. Probably got to do with his experience in B and his really good season with Empoli prior to being put in the deep end. He knew how to keep the game ticking without being flashy, even though he had the skill to do that as well. If only we had a Cheesio now. Sigh.
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with current Juventus there's wast amount of space between being good enough to be the next big thing and being good enough to be better than some of our senior options. while I also agree that none of Fagioli, Miretti, Rovella, Barbieri, Soule, Iling etc are likely to become world class superstars, I disagree that they're not good enough to play a squad role for current Juventus. we'd be much better off financially and could afford better starters if we included more youngsters in our squad building. I don't even think we'd notice a dip in quality if senior backups like Paredes, MDS etc were gone, probably other way around.
 
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