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Yes but I should go to jail just the same as if I actually did murder you, right? So there may be a small distinction but I don't see a big difference really.

So if I were to pay someone to kill you and tell them where, when and how to do it, I wouldn't be a murder?

So someone who gets another person to kill someone for them isn't a murder because they didn't actually pull the trigger? Bin Laden is worse because he brainwashes those other people to give their lives for his causes. You are right, he isn't a terrorist because he is a coward. He certinaly...

Well what did you think would happen after Saddam was removed? The tiresome ordeal is all part of invading the country. Iraq has always been a fractured country, put together aribitrairly by Englishmen after the first World War. The various groups inside the country have never gotten along in...

Just lines on a map, political divisions and to a certian extent, similar cultures. People need to realize that none of these national differences matter. Everyone in the world is a person and is no better or worse then anyone else. It disgusts me. Competition among nations in football is...

Ian your comments are fairly broad and I can assure you that not all American's are like that. In fact, while some feel very similar to you, most are genrally brainwashed by the powers that be. Don't blame the largley innocent masses, blame the people running the show.

I'm going to have to say I agree with Torkel here. I was as upset as anyone regarding the first closing of American Juve because we were discussing things besides poitics. I thought the thread had potential to be very interesting, until it degenerated into a stupid political discussion. But the...