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This is fucking brutal shit. 800 dead, most of them children. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They did annex, and the UK recognized it ( :lol: ). Then they pulled back on it because the Arab League got pissed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The guy is ISIS affiliated I think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The deal is really bad in 1948 context. Development a port further is a terrible proposition if youre losing Haifa. And Gaza was a minor port back then. I agree with the last part of your post tho. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Arab world definitely had a responsibility and did very little to help the Palestinians - I agree. Im a bit foggy on this, but iirc Jordan gave citizenship to Palestinians and assured the Arab league they were giving back the territory once the palestinian question was settled in the UN...

Jeez man. If youre gonna go about it that way. Palestine got 20-25% of the Negev in 1948. Israel got 62% of the total territory despite being - by the most pro-israeli estimates - 35% of the total population. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Now please go back and read my very first post in this discussion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry, dont know what to reply to you when you dismiss Israeli responsibility for the people being opressed by Israel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That simply not true. Israel got the Negev, but nowhere does that make 70% of the proposed jewish state. Majority of the coastline, including the major ports, went to Israel and a lot of agricultural lands too. In hindsight they shouldve taken the deal, definitely. I was giving historical...

You made a parallel between germans in east prussia and Palestinians. I explained how its not the same thing. You said a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with my argument. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You did not, whatsoever. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please adress my point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please adress my point. Population exchange after losing wars is quite normal. Leaving an entire population stateless is not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Does this map seriously look acceptable to you to appease refugees from someone elses war? Either way, serious mistakes were made by the Palestinians in the run up to 48. El-Husseini was terrible for their cause. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Youre talking about specific territories that were lost. Palestinians are a people with No passports, children being born in refugee camps and dying in the very same camps. And you bring up East Prussia :lol: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PLO signed 4 agreements from 93-95. Even accepting a 5 year Israeli transitional government. What implies a lack of negotiation here? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please share the details of that proposed two state solution. They basically gave the coastline and agricultural land to Israel and left Palestinians in the fckin desert. While placing all major religious grounds under third party governance iirc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PLO officially recognized Israels right to exist in the run-up to the Oslo peace accords. Saying there are no good guys is kind of moot in this context. Its not about good guys, its about fulfilling UN resolution 242 and exiting the circle of violence. Hamas didnt just magically pop up, they...