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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,986
We have the rights to insult Ranieri and Molinaro but not an arrogant Inter player, again and again, just because he comes from the same country they're coming from.

Give me a fucking break, you don't like the Zlatan bashing, you can surf the Inter forums, there's you'll find peace and unlike us, Zlatan haters.

They really expect us to give that arrogant SOB a respect while some members here don't give a respect for our OWN players. Yeah riiiiiight.
Zlatan shouldn't be respected whatsoever, but I can see why people don't like the word zingaro. He's just an arrogant piece of fecal matter and people who like him should be damned to hell.
 

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Jul 2, 2006
19,433
I'm 100% sure that when you use the word Zingaro, you have absolutely nothing against me or the others from ex-Yu.
But that definition is not wrong. I didn't come up with it. That's a fact and that's exactly the reason why our fans came up with the name Zingaro

I don't think so because balkan people played for us in past and Salihamidzic is currently wearing our shirt.
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
Azzurri you hypocrite, this has never been a case of hating Zlatan or not. It's been about denying his obvious skill. This has been told to you over and over again, but since you cannot win that debate you choose to ignore this fact.

Your points have been completely squashed in this thread and yet you keep repeating them several pages after. Using your own brilliant terminology, you're now "becoming like a broken radio up in a desert."
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Hate him and don't respect him. Call him other names, apart from Zingaro. Personally, i don't give a fuck.

But if you call him Zingaro you're indirectly calling me a Zingaro. This i mind.

I don't mind at all if you call him a dirty terrorist (he has a muslim surname) but i'm pretty sure that most of the muslims here wouldn't like that (and they have all the rights to complain if some idiot calls Zlatan or any other muslim player a dirty muslim terrorist).
Calling him a zingaro and a dirty terrorist is the same. So why do some muslims here keep calling him a zingaro ?
Again your definition of Gypsy isn't what you think It is. And I don't see why you should feel insulted. If thats the case you should probably stop supporting Juventus too looking at your theory, because they're all chanting Zlatan as a Zingaro whenever we're playing against them.


Fine, here it is again :

Back before the break of Yugoslavia, there were a lot of gipsies from Macedonia and Serbia (back then part of Yugoslavia) who illegaly passed the border and found themselves on the streets of the biggest Italian cities.
They were kids but they were forced to steal by those who bought them from their families.

Since they were from Yugoslavia the Italians didn't call them gipsies but they knew them as Yugoslavs. Slowly but surely the Italians started using the name Zingaro ( a gypsy) when they wanted to insult a Yugoslav (no matter if he was from Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia or Montenegro).

Zlatan is called Zingaro because of his Yugoslav background.

Lol, Gypsy's are the ones that move from a place to another a lot, doing dirty things (stealing, can't be trusted, create problems everywhere and never seem to settle).

Gypsy's have no Nationality, but since we're talking a bit history here, they don't come from Yugoslavia sir, but from India. They're originally Indians.

I'm pretty sure you don't feel offended, but you're rather trying to force yourself, Alen.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
Azzurri you hypocrite, this has never been a case of hating Zlatan or not. It's been about denying his obvious skill. This has been told to you over and over again, but since you cannot win that debate you choose to ignore this fact.

Your points have been completely squashed in this thread and yet you keep repeating them several pages after. Using your own brilliant terminology, you're now "becoming like a broken radio up in a desert."
yes it is true, zlatan has great skill!!!.............so do people in the circus
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
Gypsy's have no Nationality, but since we're talking a bit history here, they don't come from Yugoslavia sir, but from India. They're originally Indians.

I'm pretty sure you don't feel offended, but you're rather trying to force yourself, Alen.
And Turks originally came from Central Asia, but now they come from Turkey. Alen has a point.
 
Sep 2, 2004
3,115
Zlatan Sei Uno Zingaro
First off, Zlatan is not a gypsy.

Secondly, you are the same idiot that banned me for saying the word 'cetnik,' which you have no idea what it means, claiming that I am a racist........and now you, as a MOD, are using racist/derogatory words. Making you a mod was the worst thing that happened to this site.

Third, it's been years since Zlatan made Del Piero warm the bench, let it go.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,986
Honestly, who cares if Zlatan has skill? Why do we even talk about him? Does he or does he not choke every time he plays a good team?

To me, the player basically doesn't even exist.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,328
Again your definition of Gypsy isn't what you think It is. And I don't see why you should feel insulted. If thats the case you should probably stop supporting Juventus too looking at your theory, because they're all chanting Zlatan as a Zingaro whenever we're playing against them.





Lol, Gypsy's are the ones that move from a place to another a lot, doing dirty things (stealing, can't be trusted, create problems everywhere and never seem to settle).

Gypsy's have no Nationality, but since we're talking a bit history here, they don't come from Yugoslavia sir, but from India. They're originally Indians.

I'm pretty sure you don't feel offended, but you're rather trying to force yourself, Alen.

Sorry, Rab, but I think he's quite right here. You obviously know what gypsies are and so does he. It's about Italians calling every former Yugoslav a gypsy. I don't think Zlatan truly is a gypsy and Alen is annoyed with the wrong definition put forward by Italians.

Right, Alen?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
I'm 100% sure that when you use the word Zingaro, you have absolutely nothing against me or the others from ex-Yu.
But that definition is not wrong. I didn't come up with it. That's a fact and that's exactly the reason why our fans came up with the name Zingaro
Alen, I'm not a history teacher, but I've studied history. And I've been living for the past 5years in Romania, and trust me I know the definition of a Gypsy more than you(no offense) and I've got too many relations with some of them. I had business with them back couple of years ago.

Zlatan shouldn't be respected whatsoever, but I can see why people don't like the word zingaro. He's just an arrogant piece of fecal matter and people who like him should be damned to hell.
To Alen, it might be the word Zingaro. But to others it has to do with emotions more I guess. You got the Swedish here, thinking he's he should be respected (my ass), just because he plays for their NT. And you got some Croatians and Bosnians also defending him because he's got the same roots like themselves.

I'll tell you what will happen and what is happening.... This is Juventus forums, Zlatan is an Inter player, I have all the rights to call him whatever I want so long I'm not insulting anyone here. But If some are planning to make it a racist call for calling him Zingaro, then let it be, I don't really care.

If they're soo dying and it's hurting them talking about him, they're more than welcome to join Zlatan's forums....
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,925
Lol, Gypsy's are the ones that move from a place to another a lot, doing dirty things (stealing, can't be trusted, create problems everywhere and never seem to settle).

Gypsy's have no Nationality, but since we're talking a bit history here, they don't come from Yugoslavia sir, but from India. They're originally Indians.

I'm pretty sure you don't feel offended, but you're rather trying to force yourself, Alen.
:D

Did you really think i said that the gipsies come from Yugoslavia ?

Now the Italians have problems with the gipsies who came from Romania. Give them a year or two and you'll see which words will the Italians use to describe the Romanians.

No, Rab, this is what i've been telling you :
There were problems between Italy and Yugoslavia ever since the WWII ended (no need to get into this one, there is a lot to say about what did the Italians do to the Slovenians and the Croats during the war and what did the Yugoslavs do to the Italians in Yugoslavia at the end of the war. It was disgusting).
To make it short, the Italians and the Yugos never liked eachother and they always invented new names to offend the others.
In the 1980's some gipsies (thousands of them, all of them kids) who were born and lived in south Yugoslavia illegally passed the Yugoslav-Italian border.
It was a big issue here back then. Yugo-Italian criminal groups were buying these kids from their poor parents, they transported them to Italy and they forced them to steal, beg on the streets etc.

The Italians had a huge problems with them. When these kids were caught they were deported back to Yugoslavia so the Italians knew them as gipsies from Yugoslavia, or Yugoslavs.
Then they used this oportunity to come up with another name for the Yugoslavs and they started calling them gipsies (Zingari). When they wanted to offend a Yugoslav they called him a Zingaro, even if he was a blond, blue eyed dude from Slovenia who never saw a gypsy in his life.

When the Zingaro chants started there were many articles here and especially in Slovenia about the Italians and their anti-Yugoslav behavior (even though Yugoslavia was long gone). Zlatan has Yugoslav parents and the Italians use the word for him that was used to offend the Yugoslavs.
It's not a coincidence.
 

Hanaukyo

Senior Member
Sep 2, 2004
638
i always say, comparing zlatan to del piero is like comparing cheap beer to fine champagne, they both will get you drunk, but in reality, there is only one winnder
what, zlatan is the one who has the entertaining tricks and beatiful goals. DP is the one that scores like a regular boring player.
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
To Alen, it might be the word Zingaro. But to others it has to do with emotions more I guess. You got the Swedish here, thinking he's he should be respected (my ass), just because he plays for their NT. And you got some Croatians and Bosnians also defending him because he's got the same roots like themselves.
My earlier point still applies:

Azzurri you hypocrite, this has never been a case of hating Zlatan or not. It's been about denying his obvious skill. This has been told to you over and over again, but since you cannot win that debate you choose to ignore this fact.

Your points have been completely squashed in this thread and yet you keep repeating them several pages after. Using your own brilliant terminology, you're now "becoming like a broken radio up in a desert."
I think that's the fourth or fifth time that your posts have been completely ran over in this thread. Keep digging.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,986
To Alen, it might be the word Zingaro. But to others it has to do with emotions more I guess. You got the Swedish here, thinking he's he should be respected (my ass), just because he plays for their NT. And you got some Croatians and Bosnians also defending him because he's got the same roots like themselves.

I'll tell you what will happen and what is happening.... This is Juventus forums, Zlatan is an Inter player, I have all the rights to call him whatever I want so long I'm not insulting anyone here. But If some are planning to make it a racist call for calling him Zingaro, then let it be, I don't really care.

If they're soo dying and it's hurting them talking about him, they're more than welcome to join Zlatan's forums....
No offense to the Swedish fans here, but you guys do look really biased when it comes to your players at times. Not only towards Zlatan, but also players such as Mellberg and Ljungberg, et cetera.

It may be a natural way of thinking, but I don't overrate any of the players from my country.
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
No offense to the Swedish fans here, but you guys do look really biased when it comes to your players at times. Not only towards Zlatan, but also players such as Mellberg and Ljungberg, et cetera.

It may be a natural way of thinking, but I don't overrate any of the players from my country.
Ljungberg is a fag, we all know that. Who's been overrating Mellberg, though?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Sorry, Rab, but I think he's quite right here. You obviously know what gypsies are and so does he. It's about Italians calling every former Yugoslav a gypsy. I don't think Zlatan truly is a gypsy and Alen is annoyed with the wrong definition put forward by Italians.

Right, Alen?
We have a Bosnian player in our team as far as I remember. I don't really think when our fans call Zlatan Zingaro they're doing this because of Zlatan roots.

Plus let me tell you Seven and I'm sure you know that just like anyone else living in Italy.... the Gypsy's in Italy are mostly coming from Romania not from ex Yugoslavia. But like I said, If Alen wants to lie to himself and believe that as an insult to him, then It's his choice... but fact is, no body not even our fans inside the stadium are insulting the ex-Yugoslavians.



Honestly, who cares if Zlatan has skill? Why do we even talk about him? Does he or does he not choke every time he plays a good team?

To me, the player basically doesn't even exist.
They always have to talk about him, because he represents the Swedish NT and because he plays for the great INTER MILAN.....
 

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