I agree with you. As much as i like Zanetti, Alonso is much better then him. If we get him our midfield will rock hard.
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He is the answer. He'd solve our midfield problems and would be the perfect foil for Sissoko in the centre of our midfield. Added the fact he brings with him a wealth of European experience and in form he can pull of devastating passes all at a very high workrate...Don't tell me he is shit all because of one poor season with Barca where he was injured for some time, does this make Henry, Ronaldinho, Eto'o shit?? And for those of you who say he is too old, his age is actually a positive as like i said before he brings an expierence to Juventus that very few other players could provide and espicially for how low his price will be.. For instant success next year we need players who can bring a lot to the table and Deco surely can.
He is the answer. He'd solve our midfield problems and would be the perfect foil for Sissoko in the centre of our midfield. Added the fact he brings with him a wealth of European experience and in form he can pull of devastating passes all at a very high workrate...Don't tell me he is shit all because of one poor season with Barca where he was injured for some time, does this make Henry, Ronaldinho, Eto'o shit?? And for those of you who say he is too old, his age is actually a positive as like i said before he brings an expierence to Juventus that very few other players could provide and espicially for how low his price will be.. For instant success next year we need players who can bring a lot to the table and Deco surely can.
Alonso's agent has confirmed that talks are in place with Juve and that the player himself is keen on a move to Turin.
"It's true that my client is wanted by Real Madrid but at the moment we are only dealing with Juventus," Ibanez told Tuttosport.
"At the moment Alonso is focused on the European Championship but he has told me that he is proud that Zidane's and Platini's former club want him."
full article http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=717893
i know its goal.com not the most trustworthy source but...you never know
"It's true that my client is wanted by Real Madrid but at the moment we are only dealing with Juventus," Ibanez told Tuttosport.
"At the moment Alonso is focused on the European Championship but he has told me that he is proud that Zidane's and Platini's former club want him."
full article http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=717893
i know its goal.com not the most trustworthy source but...you never know
Didn't want to reply but oh fuck this is too much.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs
Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really.
Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs
Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really. Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
Yes Xabi & Sissoko would be more balanced but that's not to say that Deco-Sissoko wouldn't work efficiently, quite the contrary actually as I firmly believe it would be more fruitful..
Xabi is far from done.. And besides when our presidents suggests that we won't get him (Gigli said he was expensive and that we are following other alternatives) it leaves a bit to be desired
Xabi is far from done.. And besides when our presidents suggests that we won't get him (Gigli said he was expensive and that we are following other alternatives) it leaves a bit to be desired
Salvatore,
when he said that every EPL player is overrated, he was talking about the prices of these players, not player's quality.
And i must say i agree with him. If the realistic price for some great player is 25m euro, you can buy him for 25m eur from Spain or Italy, for less than 25m if you're buying him from Germany, France or Portugal but if you're buying him from Liverpool or Manchester you'll have to pay them 35m.
I believe that's what he meant.
when he said that every EPL player is overrated, he was talking about the prices of these players, not player's quality.
And i must say i agree with him. If the realistic price for some great player is 25m euro, you can buy him for 25m eur from Spain or Italy, for less than 25m if you're buying him from Germany, France or Portugal but if you're buying him from Liverpool or Manchester you'll have to pay them 35m.
I believe that's what he meant.
Didn't want to reply but oh fuck this is too much.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really.
Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs
Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really. Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
And who gives a fuck about tradition? i do, all real Juve fans do. Juve not winning but maintaining it's long tradition which made us fans in the first place is much better than having an Inter like team who wins. I'd rather go back to B than have a team of thugs and mercenaries like Inter. And Capello got us thugs in Ibra, Vieira, Emerson, one who lost my respect seeing what he did to come here (Emerson), the other was the fucking captain of his team and left for money and the third ....don't let me get even started on Ibra.
And yeah we were winning but without spirit and thats why we never came close to the CL with Capello, we had a team of robots who did what they told but that extra mile for the club that we have seen with Lippi in 2003 was never there. Now that Ranieri is here i see a glimpse of the 2003 Juve but signing un-hungry names like Alonso will not help. Thats my opinion, if people wanna make fun of it then fine but i know that i started supporting Juve because of their fighting spirit and not their titles, or honestly i would have been better with Real after all they won more.
Didn't want to reply but oh fuck this is too much.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really.
Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
Who gives a fuck about tradition? If we try and take a chance on every transfer we get (to see if they become successful) then we won't get anywhere. Nedved, Cannavaro, Emerson, Zebina, Davids etc. They were all pretty well known. And some of them did pretty well.
If I remember correctly, Xabi isn't scouse. Not in the slightest bit. Steven Gerrard is scouse, and a very good player who would do well for Juventus, but Xabi is far away from being scouse. Annd Im pretty sure he isn't a cunt. Do you know him personally? Are you one of his butlers? He has also shown that he isn't a cunt on the football field. Do you remember an incident where he did a nasty challenge or got involved in a fight? Zanetti is in no way better. He is a good player yes, but not better. If you ask a neutral on the situation, they would answer Xabi, and rightly so. Your opinion is wrong in my opinion.
"almost every player who plays in England is overrated to death so do not let the publicity fool you,"
That is the single best part of the post. You think that most of the following of C.Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Vidic, Evra and Gerrard are overrated. Yeah, wrong. How about Sissoko, is he overrated? Is he still overrated?
Capello got us thugs
Just because they didn't stay at the club and wanted to play football at a higher level. Christ. You really are off on one. One of them turned out to be a massive cunt, but the rest, not really. Every player who plays for us must support us now lads. They are 10000 Kaka's because they won't leave. Ever. Im sure that Trezeguet, Nedved, Zanetti, Camoranesi and Kovac don't support us. Hang on. They all stayed with us when we went down to Serie B. Hmmm, suspicious.
I want success. You do too. You are wrong though.
If you create a squad based on potential great players you get a team who is a feeder like Parma, Ajax and etc... your highest ambition with a team like that would be getting into Uefa Cup...
If you create a squad based on spending hard cash it`s a better solution but there is also a problem as you would see your team like Real Madrid
You might make it and win it all and you might see a team who have trouble with ego`s and style of play and then you might even finish 5th
HOWEVER if you mix it both then you get a team who is likely to fight for the scudetto every year and with the right guidence will win a lot, not to mention a CL spot every year and a possability of winning it too
so the best economical and clever thing is to mix it both
that`s what made us that good in the last 15 years !!!
yeah thats why i think that xavi alonso is a top player but he's price might be just too high.....English clubs do exaggerate a lot when it comes to valuing their players. Liverpool paid 12 million euros for alonso when he first came to them back in 04 (and he was pretty big in spain back then). Now i can't c them selling him for less than 20 mil euros, heard that they want 25 million euros thats just too much IMO.....
yeah thats why i think that xavi alonso is a top player but he's price might be just too high.....English clubs do exaggerate a lot when it comes to valuing their players. Liverpool paid 12 million euros for alonso when he first came to them back in 04 (and he was pretty big in spain back then). Now i can't c them selling him for less than 20 mil euros, heard that they want 25 million euros thats just too much IMO.....
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