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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,988
What Osman brought revealed everything. Why Matt didn't save his ass by voting Alen/Cheese? Cheese, Alen, Melo, that's almost (99.8%) certain.
No, Matt did vote for me. The question is why didn't he vote for Cheese at 22:00?

Cheese had 3 votes, Matt had 4 and yet Matt voted for me instead of Cheese (before Janna prolonged the voting deadline). Why did Mat put me in such situation instead of voting for Cheese?

Matt's vote is clear. What I don't get is why didn't Cheese vote for me.
 

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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
No, Matt did vote for me. The question is why didn't he vote for Cheese at 22:00?

Cheese had 3 votes, Matt had 4 and yet Matt voted for me instead of Cheese (before Janna prolonged the voting deadline). Why did Mat put me in such situation instead of voting for Cheese?

Matt's vote is clear. What I don't get is why didn't Cheese vote for me.
Are you aware that you are exactly telling us that you three are gangsters? Matt didn't vote Cheese because Cheese is a G: FACT. Why a G in Cheese wouldn't vote you to make it a draw between you and his buddy G, Matt? More importantly, why his buddy G Matt wouldn't ask Cheese to vote you to make it a draw between you and himself? Simple, because you are a G.

It's obvious Alen, here's the G team: Matt, Cheese, Alen, Melo.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
Osman, I see this is the vote count before Janna prolonged the deadline for 30 minutes, so yes, it wasn't me but it was TWW with most votes for me and he did vote for me (the mofo repeated his vote for me 3 minutes later :D).
What I can't explain though is why didn't Cheese and Melo add their votes because I'd have had 5 and I'd have been lynched (they didn't know that Janna will prolong the deadline so they could have done that).
You are honestly telling me you are a civilian and you are responding like this to my post? I respect you enough as a civilian mafia player to seriously buy that for a second...

This is the post TWW voted on you, 20.38 CET post 408th on the 21st page http://forum.juventuz.com/showthrea...ovtuz-part-3&p=3384061&viewfull=1#post3384061

My sole reason for voting for Alen right now is that the game will proceed better without him. My only concern is that if he is indeed a G, he'll ruin the game the moment he's killed off, just like last time.
Okay. But if he's a C, you and Ze will look very suspicious because of how you both came out at the same time for him.

Alen
If a post ever screamed a facade of voting for a fellow G, its this one :D Especially since its centered around dissauding/manipulating others from voting on you. Kate and Ze in this case, Kate in particular which he was basically arguing with to not vote you, in his non subtle attempt of being indirect. Wish I was here tonight, would have had fun probing him on that angle. And you would have been pissed he was giving you away, even if he didnt know he was getting lynched for sure, he was prime candidate, most decent thing he could do was make sure wasnt just leaving bread crumbs back your G lair (meaning not expose you by backing you too much), but frigging loafes of bread :D (very damning posts to leave behind after he is lynched as G, obviously words of dead Gs are analyzed).

I mean this is from page 20 alone, look at these quotes of TWW (and weep Alen, weep), I showing context of who they are replying to/quoting to show better context:

I don't understand how one can vote for someone other than TWW or Alen so far. They're the most obvious choices we've got.
It's not that obvious, it seems. Voting for me was so last weekend. Voting Alen is in.
"Voting Alen is in", meaning its a trend, stay away from it, trends are so passé.



Are the Gs planning to take out Alen then?
I dont need to comment this one do I? :D (other then he made this post directly after Kate and Ze showed they are clearly going for Alen more and more)


I don't understand how one can vote for someone other than TWW or Alen so far. They're the most obvious choices we've got.
Are you saying that you know he's a C?
No, by all means vote for him. In fact, he would be a bigger loss for the Gs than he would be for the Cs. It's just that this sudden movement to vote Alen seems planned, if you know what I mean (Ze and Kate).

This is as unsubtle as it gets.

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Thats it, all these quotes go before my first quote in cronogical order. As I said, if you arent a G Alen, then TWW puts Keyzer zöze to shame in covering you this consistently. I mean, I and others as G have stuck up for civilians just for show, but mostly in passing and a post here or there amongst dozens of pages. Not indirectly defend a civilian (one you should rejoice in seeing him being suspected and lynched, not defend) for 2 straight pages. IMO TWW would prolly have kept at it hehe, if the attention somehow didnt turn to what to do with Blondu. Too bad, I would loved to seen how long it would have gone for :D

The last act of it was voting for you the second he found out the deadline was pushed back. YES his vote of 20.38 still stood, but it goes without saying it was for show as his quote displays above. He would have changed from you to someone else, klin as he did prolly, if the deadline didnt move up as it did. In fact, the single most thing that made me see this possibility, is the fact that TWW voted for you for the 2nd time, in the suspicious timing of when he exactly found out deadline was pushed up.



P.S Alen, you have my sympathies lol, not like most of the above was your fault hehe. Your were away (like me), even if I find it corny that when you started posting, your attempt was to cancel the game by revealing some lame game breaking PM? (and now I read while posting this you are trying to blame Janna for prolonging deadline...) Maybe I'm being too cynical/harsh and you were just joking around, but you did cancel the last game.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,988
Are you aware that you are exactly telling us that you three are gangsters? Matt didn't vote Cheese because Cheese is a G: FACT. Why a G in Cheese wouldn't vote you to make it a draw between you and his buddy G, Matt? More importantly, why his buddy G Matt wouldn't ask Cheese to vote you to make it a draw between you and himself? Simple, because you are a G.

It's obvious Alen, here's the G team: Matt, Cheese, Alen, Melo.
Yes, I am telling you exactly that because Cheese makes it look like that. The only logical thing was to vote me out. Actually, even if I was a G the only logical thing was Cheese to vote a fellow G out instead of voting for Kyle.
But the motherfucker votes for Kyle.

If he didn't vote for Klin later, I'd even think that he's a C looking at how he played.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
So, who will we vote next? Lets make a hat pick between Cheese, Alen and Melo :p
Its kinda funny, I PM TWW and Alen what my role is early today and prove myself, and prolly thats why I wasnt whacked, and I get to live extra day to see this bizzarely funny pattern. Poor Fredo though lol.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
Yes, I am telling you exactly that because Cheese makes it look like that. The only logical thing was to vote me out. Actually, even if I was a G the only logical thing was Cheese to vote a fellow G out instead of voting for Kyle.
But the motherfucker votes for Kyle.

If he didn't vote for Klin later, I'd even think that he's a C looking at how he played.



Doesnt even make an aota of sense. Instead just making worse for yourself, I didnt even mention Cheese in connection to you, but this just makes it worse, not one (TWW) but two Gs to save the one, ignored to vote for you to save him. Thats as damning as it gets. Instead they went for a guy who had 2 votes less then you.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,988
Its kinda funny, I PM TWW and Alen what my role is early today and prove myself, and prolly thats why I wasnt whacked, and I get to live extra day to see this bizzarely funny pattern. Poor Fredo though lol.
If I was a G I'd have whacked you for that PM.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,988



Doesnt even make an aota of sense. Instead just making worse for yourself, I didnt even mention Cheese in connection to you, but this just makes it worse, not one (TWW) but two Gs to save the one, ignored to vote for you to save him. Thats as damning as it gets. Instead they went for a guy who had 2 votes less then you.
Please lynch me first tomorrow.

People, do not vote Cheese and Melo tomorrow. Vote me to see what happens and to see if Osman will laugh again. If I'm a C, and I will be, save Cheese and Melo again just so you'd lynch Osman after me.

I am not a G you dumbass and looking at the way you act, I think that you already know that.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Yes, I am telling you exactly that because Cheese makes it look like that. The only logical thing was to vote me out. Actually, even if I was a G the only logical thing was Cheese to vote a fellow G out instead of voting for Kyle.
But the motherfucker votes for Kyle.

If he didn't vote for Klin later, I'd even think that he's a C looking at how he played.
Cheese, as a player, is experienced enough to cast a last second vote on you (assuming you are a C) to save his fellow G's ass. If you were a C, he would have voted you.

But as a G, he is not experienced enough to know that casting a last second vote on his fellow G, you, would probably cost the mafia team their best player but would also clear his name, noone would doubt him anymore. That's the mistake he made.

It doesn't make you a C :D
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
If I was a G I'd have whacked you for that PM.
You would have? I bet TWW would have too? Because I pmed him the same thing, just as PMed it to two others, it served the purpose proving my role 100% to potential civilians, while making me less likely to be whacked for last night (very probable for 2nd night or third etc), because you would know I'm not the detective or the BG, which you need to gamble on with your whackings to get. Besides you being a G and doing him for sport, I think its possible poor Fred got aced because I made Gs less likely to whack me last night with that PM.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
He PMd me to tell me that he's the jailer. He said that he'll probably jail me later to prove it and then we see Hoori jailed.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah thank you :D You know, I thought it you were 99.9% G, but you just confirmed it to me 100% :D What I pmed you is what I pmed all of you (Tww, you, Hoori and Sabet) word for word (except telling Hoori she is getting jailed, while I told you she is getting jailed in pm), I was in such a hurry to work that I sent you all the same copy of PMs :D The fact that you are trying this desperate attempt to call me liar, when I have someone like Hoori to vouche for me in this thread, is weak. But then, you didnt know I pmed her the same thing I guess, valiant effort :D
 

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