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Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,390
from all the refs, it was italian referee who kept things calm and nice.

I wonder how much fifa payd for him:

"less then 10 yellows and only 1 red you get 50,000$"
"less then 5 yellows and no reds you get 150,000$"
"most importantly if you dont **** up like every other guy before you, you will do the final, and get to be the next collina"

:D
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,603
England players rally around Beckham
June 27, 2006

Several members of England's World Cup squad have leapt to the defence of captain David Beckham after he answered critics with the winning goal against Ecuador.

There had been calls for Beckham to be dropped, but his free-kick sealed a quarter-final tie against Portugal and almost certainly cemented his place in the side.

England goalkeeper Paul Robinson said: "Becks is different class. World class. :lol2:

"We need him. He is so important. Becks has shown again that he scores and makes vital goals for England.

"His free-kick got us the win against Paraguay. He set up Peter Crouch's goal that put us on our way against Trinidad and Tobago and he scored the winner against Ecuador.

"That's a major personal input whichever way you want to look at it."

Frank Lampard also offered support to Beckham.

"I think he's taken some very hard criticism," said the Chelsea midfielder.

"People should get behind the captain and the team and I think the majority of people are doing that.

"There is some harsh criticism and there is no need for it, but you see the fans out here and they are right behind us."

Steven Gerrard believes the critcicism Beckham received helped England on Sunday.

"I think the criticism he got before the game helped us because he went out with a point to prove and he has helped get us into the last eight," said Gerrard.

"All the boys are happy with the job he's doing for the team. The goal was a David Beckham trademark free-kick and a few more of those would be nice."

Owen Hargreaves joined in the chorus of support for the England skipper.

He said: "Any time you win 1-0 the goalscorer is obviously the hero and it was Becks against Ecuador.

"His set-pieces are his strengths. He put one in and it was a great free-kick and it's won us the game.

"After that we played a bit better, created more chances and could have won 2-0.

"Becks is crucial because when you look at all the games, like Mexico against Argentina, a lot of the goals are from set-pieces.

"He is the best set-piece taker in the world and to have him in your team is a strength. It's a benefit."

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I don't care what anybody says, Beckham is a joke. But most sane fans have known this for years now.

Beckham is different class. World Class. :rofl2:
 

Dan

Back & Quack
Mar 9, 2004
9,290
You underate Beckham immensely, Andy. He is not world class, but is a damn good player actually. His crosses are immacualte(yes), his work rate (for england at least) is fantastic. His freekicks are great aswell, as evidenced on against Ecuador. His dribbling skills are alright, quite poor at times, but put Beckham in the right position and he will always put a good ball in.

Enough with the Beckham hating. its become oh so rudimentry. We already know he isn't World class and was once overated, but that time is past because everyone relises how overated he is.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,603
Dan said:
You underate Beckham immensely, Andy. He is not world class, but is a damn good player actually. His crosses are immacualte(yes), his work rate (for england at least) is fantastic. His freekicks are great aswell, as evidenced on against Ecuador. His dribbling skills are alright, quite poor at times, but put Beckham in the right position and he will always put a good ball in.

Enough with the Beckham hating. its become oh so rudimentry. We already know he isn't World class and was once overated, but that time is past because everyone relises how overated he is.
Where did I say he's not a good player? I never said that, and of course he's a good player because he creates a plethora of opportunities. But I just cannot withold myself from making fun of David Beckham, because he is indeed, in all fairness, a joke.

If you don't want people hating Beckham, perhaps you should tell your players, media, and some fans to stop overrating him. Wouldnt that be a good idea? Or would you rather have people like me laughing at comments from overrated goalkeepers like Paul Robinson..
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
Obviously Beckham is a joke, and obviously it is called for to laugh at him at every possible opportunity, however he is a good player.


He hasn't been overrated in 2-3 years though, since everyone thinks he is a clown now, like Barthez
 

Morra10

Senior Member
Apr 30, 2006
3,576
Andy said:
England players rally around Beckham
June 27, 2006

Several members of England's World Cup squad have leapt to the defence of captain David Beckham after he answered critics with the winning goal against Ecuador.

There had been calls for Beckham to be dropped, but his free-kick sealed a quarter-final tie against Portugal and almost certainly cemented his place in the side.

England goalkeeper Paul Robinson said: "Becks is different class. World class. :lol2:

"We need him. He is so important. Becks has shown again that he scores and makes vital goals for England.

"His free-kick got us the win against Paraguay. He set up Peter Crouch's goal that put us on our way against Trinidad and Tobago and he scored the winner against Ecuador.

"That's a major personal input whichever way you want to look at it."

Frank Lampard also offered support to Beckham.

"I think he's taken some very hard criticism," said the Chelsea midfielder.

"People should get behind the captain and the team and I think the majority of people are doing that.

"There is some harsh criticism and there is no need for it, but you see the fans out here and they are right behind us."

Steven Gerrard believes the critcicism Beckham received helped England on Sunday.

"I think the criticism he got before the game helped us because he went out with a point to prove and he has helped get us into the last eight," said Gerrard.

"All the boys are happy with the job he's doing for the team. The goal was a David Beckham trademark free-kick and a few more of those would be nice."

Owen Hargreaves joined in the chorus of support for the England skipper.

He said: "Any time you win 1-0 the goalscorer is obviously the hero and it was Becks against Ecuador.

"His set-pieces are his strengths. He put one in and it was a great free-kick and it's won us the game.

"After that we played a bit better, created more chances and could have won 2-0.

"Becks is crucial because when you look at all the games, like Mexico against Argentina, a lot of the goals are from set-pieces.

"He is the best set-piece taker in the world and to have him in your team is a strength. It's a benefit."

www.worldsoccer.com
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I don't care what anybody says, Beckham is a joke. But most sane fans have known this for years now.

Beckham is different class. World Class. :rofl2:

beckham isnt a joke.......and his free kick goal against equador was world class. he isnt the best player alive but he is a great one.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
75,252
Beckham did kill the attack on the right side for most of the game with his crappy dribbling and his marginal speed. But then again when he can score on a free kick from 30 yards out I guess its ok. Unless the free kick never comes or he misses. If that happens and my name is Heargraves I beat his ass for making me run so much.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
Russian ref defends himself after 20-card game

MOSCOW, June 27 (Reuters) - Russian referee Valentin Ivanov said the stormy World Cup match between Portugal and Netherlands was the most difficult of his professional career.

Ivanov has been under fire for his performance in Sunday's second-round clash, won 1-0 by Portugal, which saw a World Cup record four red cards shown.

'Probably, from the point of view of rudeness, it was the worst match I ever had,' the 45-year-old referee was quoted as saying by Russian daily Izvestia on Tuesday.

Both teams finished the bad-tempered encounter with nine men while eight others were cautioned.

Ivanov was heavily criticised by players, coaches and even FIFA President Sepp Blatter, who had said the referee could have given a yellow card to himself.

'I consider that the referee was not at the same level as the players. There could have been a yellow card for the referee,' Blatter told Portuguese television.

But Ivanov, who will end his international career this year because of FIFA's imposed age limit of 45, defended himself.

Asked if he thought he had made any mistakes, he said: 'I don't know. I haven't seen the video yet but I called the action as I saw it.'

Ivanov said he was taken by surprise by the rough tactics of Dutch players.

'You would expect some dirty tricks from the Portuguese. They are known for time-wasting or hitting from behind,' he said. 'But I was unpleasantly surprised by seeing such things from the Dutch. More so, they were the instigators.'

Russian soccer chief Vitaly Mutko said Blatter's criticism of Ivanov was totally unfair.

'If Ivanov should be given a yellow card for his performance than many other referees at this World Cup deserve a red,' Mutko told Izvestia.

German Football Association (DFB) president Gerhard Mayer-Vorfelder also came to Ivanov's defence, saying the referee was just enforcing the rules.

'The way I saw it, the match was not lacking a sense of discretion on the referee's part but rather the teams did not follow the rules of the game,' said Mayer-Vorfelder.

'FIFA gave the order to the referees to adhere the rules firmly as far as tackling, holding jerseys and time wasting are concerned. This was made perfectly clear to all the teams. It's completely correct that the referees are enforcing the rules.'

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Isn't it a bit worrying that we have a referee who goes into a game with this kind of preconception?
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
83,483
Becks is a good player, but he's something of a shadow of his former self in his ManU days. In some ways, his team role has largely devolved more to a set pieces specialist than anything else.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
83,483
gray said:
Russian ref defends himself after 20-card game...
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Isn't it a bit worrying that we have a referee who goes into a game with this kind of preconception?
It most definitely is. For one, a ref shouldn't be predisposed to team biases. For another, even if the guy believes them, he shouldn't be so stupid as to admit them publicly. :rolleyes2

To his partial defense, however, I'm not sure how exactly that match could have had a better outcome with a different ref. Touchy calls and lack of order abound, but the players' actions forced the ref to intervene and take charge of the game.
 

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