World Cup 2018 LIVE thread (18 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

My view on VAR is rather simple, Football is a multimillion dollar industry, and whatever can be done to prevent crucial errors influencing games, should be done. Especially if we have the technics to do so.

Does it slow the game down? Maybe, but not by THAT much. The Portugal game overdid it a little, but look how many mistakes would have happened if it wasn't for VAR. At the end of the day i gladly take a break over a wrong decision, and all the football romantic guys who are like "but but it's part of the game to discuss errors and ref decisions after the game" will change their opinion as soon as their team eventually get's fucked by a wrong offside call which costs them a trophy.

Can't say i know that feeling

 

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[king Ale]

The cheat and dive stuff does really ruin the match. But again, that’s mostly for the perspective of TV viewers again.

It’s like whatever actually happens in real life are just actors for a CGI animation they air on TV called football. It’s just that the players aren’t wearing green screen suits covered in sensor balls. They might as well, because the treatment is the same: real life is just fodder for the product they package and gloss as reality on TV.

The difference however is that the TV viewer is everything in this business. It's really sickening to me as a viewer to see players constantly dive and try to deceive the ref. If players know that it's not easy to cheat and get away with it, they will have less of an incentive to do so. Then there's wrong offside calls, which can be decreased by 100% using VAR.

 

[swag]

The difference however is that the TV viewer is everything in this business.

It is. And I am in denial about that sad truth.

 

[Ronn]

Anyone have a video of the Ronaldo elbow incident?

 

[DAiDEViL]

That's not even a yellow for me.

Iran player leans on him and Ronaldo pushes him away, but that's not an active elbow to the head.

 

[Ronn]

A red for that would've been really harsh.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Australia is part of AFC, and Israel is a UEFA member.

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Is Midwest in the middle of the West?

Dude I’m talking in the context of football.

 

[king Ale]

A red for that would've been really harsh.

Is elbowing not a red card offense?

 

[Ronn]

Is elbowing not a red card offense?

It sure is. But this was something between an elbow and a push IMO.

 

[DAiDEViL]

A red for that would've been really harsh.

@king Ale is right though, it's either nothing (which it is for me), or it's an elbow to the head, in that case it's a red. The yellow the ref gave seems kinda half assed.

My guess is he either thought it was nothing, but didn't want to give the impression to favour Ronaldo, so gave a yellow, or he thought it was a red, but didn't have he balls to send him off. Something like that.

 

[Ronn]

@king Ale is right though, it's either nothing (which it is for me), or it's an elbow to the head, in that case it's a red. The yellow the ref gave seems kinda half assed.

My guess is he either thought it was nothing, but didn't want to give the impression to favour Ronaldo, so gave a yellow, or he thought it was a red, but didn't have he balls to send him off. Something like that.

Oh absolutely. Ref was an idiot. He lost control of the match right after Ronaldo penalty.

 

[king Ale]

It sure is. But this was something between an elbow and a push IMO.

It's not a push at all, he hits the player and he uses force. I know it's not a De Rossi level elbow, but if elbowing is a red card offense, Ronaldo got away with it only because he's Ronaldo.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

España lucky bastards

 

[king Ale]

@king Ale is right though, it's either nothing (which it is for me), or it's an elbow to the head, in that case it's a red. The yellow the ref gave seems kinda half assed.

My guess is he either thought it was nothing, but didn't want to give the impression to favour Ronaldo, so gave a yellow, or he thought it was a red, but didn't have he balls to send him off. Something like that.

Does the elbow have to hit the head to be a red card offense? I very much doubt that.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Is elbowing not a red card offense?

Not if you are Ronaldo

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I can't see shit

 

[Afghan_juventus]

When you see the close up replay it is clearly a red.

Kaka was sent off for something much much lighter in the 2010 World Cup.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I was just trying to figure out what went through the ref's mind. To me it was a rather normal fight for position, Iran player leaned into him, Ronaldo tried to shake him off, using his arm, yes, but it wasn't an elbow to me.

 

[X Æ A-12]

In the center of Asia? Just a guess.



When I am in the stands.



It's the kind of monkey shit that says sports is too often a video game played for TV viewers. Not for reality. Not for something that doesn't involve several cathode ray tubes, a mobile video processing unit, a satellite or two, and a couple of talking heads between them and the action. Because we all know the latter is far more real and true than actually being at an event.

Meh I still don't see that as much an argument against the necessity of VAR in the face of how terrible refereeing is in football and how, perhaps due to the low scoring nature of the sport, 1-2 bad referee decisions are changing the outcome of the whole tie.

Whether you like it or not VAR is coming. I understand that it does interrupt the flow of the game but so does any kind of extended stoppage and there are already plenty of those in football. Like I already mentioned, i'm pretty sure it isn't just television viewers who want this like you tried to frame it. I have heard almost no opposition to VAR from actual professional players, coaches, refs etc...if anything its the "fat slobs" watching on tv or former players that bitch about everything not being the same as when they played 30 years ago The game evolves, fast too. Might as well get used to it.

 

[DAiDEViL]

When you see the close up replay it is clearly a red.

Yeah. But your are biased as fuck cause you hate Ronaldo. Look at the vid again, but this time imagine it was your boy Cheesio instead of CR7. You'd probably go as far as to send off the Iran player for protesting.