Without Religion, would homosexuals be more accepted? (2 Viewers)

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Blindman
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Its wrong, imagine if the whole world was gay, there would no place for pro-creation, humankind would be extinct. man-woman, its natural and for a start you wouldnt even be alive, so away to batty boys.
If the whole world contained sterile men only then we would all be extinct too, soon enough. Does that mean that all sterile people are wong? Homosexuality, too, is normally a result of socio-biological factors. You are three times more likely to be gay if your twin brother was gay rather than your step brother. It would be immoral I think to blame someone for doing something he has very little control of.
 
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    Wow this is a really interesting question Andy.
    I think even if religion didn't exist there would be homophobics because I've met quite a handful of people that aren't very religious but still think being gay is wrong because its "disgusting".

    I also think it's a question of morals, about what's wrong and what's right and that differs in every human being and their conception of life.
    Well, lots of things are "disgusting". Having sex with girls that weigh 500 pounds would be pretty "disgusting," so perhaps we should ban them from procreating...
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Is it wrong to be a pedophile, assuming you dont carry out your desires?

    Same goes for necrophiliacs and those into bestiality, also assuming they don't act out on their desires.
     

    Byrone

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    It has been argued that homophobia is displayed by those that are not comfortable in there own sexuality, and as it has also been suggested that 1 in 10 men are gay, and 9 people (including myself) have posted in this thread have displayed neutrality on the subject it would therefore suggest that there is something you aren't telling yourself.

    Food for thought.

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    Well put.

    What i find weird is that people spend so much time judge other peoples lifestyles & own preferences,whilst forgetting about the important things in their lives.How does a homosexual person's sexual preference harm your livelihood or take you off the moral rail line?

    If you're gonna have a negative perception about homosexuals & continue to obsess about their sexual activity that surely shows how morally bankrupt you are.Kinda funny how the majority of homosexual men have their priorities in order & actually have their lives in tact,with solid careers & goals in life.
     

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    Blindman
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    Is it wrong to be a pedophile, assuming you dont carry out your desires?

    Same goes for necrophiliacs and those into bestiality, also assuming they don't act out on their desires.
    Of course it's wrong but these perversions come out of personal choice. They aren't genetic.
     

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    Is it wrong to be a pedophile, assuming you dont carry out your desires?

    Same goes for necrophiliacs and those into bestiality, also assuming they don't act out on their desires.
    Are you putting homosexuality in the same category as the ones mentioned above?
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Of course it's wrong but these perversions come out of personal choice. They aren't genetic.
    How do you know it's not genetic and while we're on the subject; do we know homosexuality is genetic?

    Are you putting homosexuality in the same category as the ones mentioned above?
    Well, why shouldn't we put it in the same category?

    Homosexuality amongst two consenting adults is different from pedophilia and necrophilia but we're assuming that neither act out on their desires but just have this preference.
     

    PhRoZeN

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    It has been argued that homophobia is displayed by those that are not comfortable in there own sexuality, and as it has also been suggested that 1 in 10 men are gay, and 9 people (including myself) have posted in this thread have displayed neutrality on the subject it would therefore suggest that there is something you aren't telling yourself.

    Food for thought.

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    :lol: :rolleyes: Seriously what kind of weak and pathetic argument is that? I can make up any statistic here as we type that 9 out of every 10 Juventuz members usernames starting with 'j' are gays.

    Im more than comfortable being heterosexual thank you. As for homophobia well actually as much as the western world seems to be bridging it there still remains a big divide in the rest of the world. If you put together all the worlds population im sorry you certainly wont get 1 out of 10.

    Heres a wiki answer for you http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_the_world_is_gay

    Its time you went for 1 out of 20 or expand that ratio even further.
     

    PhRoZeN

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    If the whole world contained sterile men only then we would all be extinct too, soon enough. Does that mean that all sterile people are wong? Homosexuality, too, is normally a result of socio-biological factors. You are three times more likely to be gay if your twin brother was gay rather than your step brother. It would be immoral I think to blame someone for doing something he has very little control of.
    Yes but the world doesnt, what we are brought up with we should use simple. How would that be wrong? everyone is accountable for whatever they do, religiously or not. Everyone have their free choice and are in control of what they do so blaming twin brother for being gay is the cheap way to justify being homosexual.
     

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    Really? Has that been proven?
    How do you know it's not genetic and while we're on the subject; do we know homosexuality is genetic?

    There was a study on the subject. It went something like this.

    Researchers wanted to find out just how much are biological factors important in determining one's sexuality. They to a sample of hundreds of homsexuals that had brothers, step-brothers, and identical twins.

    The evidence showed that 1 out of every 8 people who had homsexual step-brothers turned out to be homosexual themselves. 1 out of every 4 people who had brothers turned out to be homosexual. And 1 out of every 2 people who were identical twins with a homosexual turned out to be homosexual themselves. Obviously enviroment does play a role, but clearly it isn't the only role. Apparently, biological factors are very much present in determining one's sexual preference.
     
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    Is it wrong to be a pedophile, assuming you dont carry out your desires?

    Same goes for necrophiliacs and those into bestiality, also assuming they don't act out on their desires.
    This is always the argument against homosexuals, and it's simply idiotic. The difference here is that young children are not of age to consent to sex or propagating naked photos of themselves on the internet. Homosexuality is far less harmless, yet it's grouped together with pedophilia by homophobes.
     
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    :lol: :rolleyes: Seriously what kind of weak and pathetic argument is that? I can make up any statistic here as we type that 9 out of every 10 Juventuz members usernames starting with 'j' are gays.

    Im more than comfortable being heterosexual thank you. As for homophobia well actually as much as the western world seems to be bridging it there still remains a big divide in the rest of the world. If you put together all the worlds population im sorry you certainly wont get 1 out of 10.

    Heres a wiki answer for you http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_the_world_is_gay

    Its time you went for 1 out of 20 or expand that ratio even further.
    :lol:

    Besides from being clearly homophobic in nature, your post leaves much to be desired because apparently you don't understand that many folks won't admit to being gay, so there is a bias in the data. Which, I must say, is very funny considering it was your post.
     
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    Yes but the world doesnt, what we are brought up with we should use simple. How would that be wrong? everyone is accountable for whatever they do, religiously or not. Everyone have their free choice and are in control of what they do so blaming twin brother for being gay is the cheap way to justify being homosexual.
    Why do you have to justify being a homosexual? See, that's where you're ass-backwards.
     

    PhRoZeN

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    :lol:

    Besides from being clearly homophobic in nature, your post leaves much to be desired because apparently you don't understand that many folks won't admit to being gay, so there is a bias in the data. Which, I must say, is very funny considering it was your post.
    All depends on how much you personally know me.

    You dont :)
     
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