Its wrong, imagine if the whole world was gay, there would no place for pro-creation, humankind would be extinct. man-woman, its natural and for a start you wouldnt even be alive, so away to batty boys.
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Without Religion, would homosexuals be more accepted? (3 Viewers)
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To answer this question all you have to do is look at the practises of those that predates modern organised religion. Ie Rome & Greece where homosexuality was just as acceptable as hetrosexuality and it was mostly assumed everyone was bisexual. I can source you on this if you want, but a simple google will give you all the answers you want. I studied the ancients (mostly politics, but some sociology) for 2 years as part of my history A level.
It has been argued that homophobia is displayed by those that are not comfortable in there own sexuality, and as it has also been suggested that 1 in 10 men are gay, and 9 people (including myself) have posted in this thread have displayed neutrality on the subject it would therefore suggest that there is something you aren't telling yourself.
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
When we develop time travel we can go back and ask them, but untill then theory would be a mute point, mere speculation. But it happened, Gaius Julius Caeser had an open sexual relationship with Octavian (Augustus) and Tiberius Gracchus also was known to engage in sexual activites with both men and women. Also when they uncovered Pompey vast ammounts of homosexual pornography was found and the Spartans were famous for sodomy.
(i may have spelt those names wrong, its been a while since iv debated rome)
(i may have spelt those names wrong, its been a while since iv debated rome)
When you use the term 'religion', you are implying that it was the Bible or the Qur'an directly cause homophobia. Well, even if religious texts contain a sense of intolerance for gay people, that doesn't mean religious people are forced to apply them in life. For example. The Bible claimed that masturbation was considered a sin as well as homosexuality. These were not considered moral abominations but rather a deviance from certain norms in society and shouldn't be taken very seriously.
When people talk about some of the things in religious texts that seem ridiculous to us now don't seem to realize that these texts were written thousands of years ago. They were meant for a particular people in a very specific time period. There is nothing absolute in their teachings, and it would be very foolish to think there is anything timeless in them.
There are many religious people out there who accept homosexuals and abortion. So obviously if the statement, 'Religion causes homophobia' were to stand, then all religious people must be homophobic. The problem I think, is in the way people have chosen to interpret and use their religion, but not in religion itself. If I were to tell you that a brilliant scientist created a bomb that he used to kill thousands of people. It would be wrong to say that science is at fault here; it's obvious that the person who chose to abuse science for obscene actions is that one who should be held accountable.
When people talk about some of the things in religious texts that seem ridiculous to us now don't seem to realize that these texts were written thousands of years ago. They were meant for a particular people in a very specific time period. There is nothing absolute in their teachings, and it would be very foolish to think there is anything timeless in them.
There are many religious people out there who accept homosexuals and abortion. So obviously if the statement, 'Religion causes homophobia' were to stand, then all religious people must be homophobic. The problem I think, is in the way people have chosen to interpret and use their religion, but not in religion itself. If I were to tell you that a brilliant scientist created a bomb that he used to kill thousands of people. It would be wrong to say that science is at fault here; it's obvious that the person who chose to abuse science for obscene actions is that one who should be held accountable.
It has been argued that homophobia is displayed by those that are not comfortable in there own sexuality, and as it has also been suggested that 1 in 10 men are gay, and 9 people (including myself) have posted in this thread have displayed neutrality on the subject it would therefore suggest that there is something you aren't telling yourself.
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
No doubt about that. Well said.
Indeed, this is very well known. It's interesting how the Polytheists have no problem with homosexuality, but the monotheists find it despicable. But in this case it's more of a cultural issue than a religious one, as swag was referring to. Yet the monotheists make it a religious issue because that's what some hallucinating guy wrote down on a tablet.
That's certainly true. As funny as the question may seem, have you ever seen a dog try to hump another male dog? I know I have, several times. That would be considered a homosexual act.
Wow this is a really interesting question Andy.
I think even if religion didn't exist there would be homophobics because I've met quite a handful of people that aren't very religious but still think being gay is wrong because its "disgusting".
I also think it's a question of morals, about what's wrong and what's right and that differs in every human being and their conception of life.
I think even if religion didn't exist there would be homophobics because I've met quite a handful of people that aren't very religious but still think being gay is wrong because its "disgusting".
I also think it's a question of morals, about what's wrong and what's right and that differs in every human being and their conception of life.
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