Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (59 Viewers)

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Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Right now he's injured. Otherwise, Moyes favours Valencia to him some games because Nani is not a 4-4-2 winger. And also, Moyes is an idiot and Valencia is generally cack.

Nani is not a superstar but I don't know how anyone can not be intrigued by his talent. He has the talent of a 60M player. If he fits the right system he could shine just like Robben who "flopped" at Real Madrid and moved to Bayern at the same age Nani is now.
I usually agree with most things that you say but this time you are way off.
There is a huge gap in talent between Nani and Robben. Robben is one of the best players on the planet. Nani is nothing special at all. There are lots of superior wingers in the game.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Robben dint flop at Madrid btw.Watch his last season for Madrid,he was so explosive and one of the main reasons they finished 2nd that year.He was later forced out of Madrid to accommodate CR and Kaka(even though Pelle wanted to keep him) just like Oezil was forced out this year to accommodate Bale.It was a typical Madrid move.

Agree with hist also.The talent gap between Nani and Robben is huge.Robben has been performing consistently at an elite level for years now.You just cant say the same about Nani who has like had 1 good season really with the others being largely inconsistent.

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Robben moved to Bayern at the age of 25.Nani will be 28(running) once if he switches clubs in the summer.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Tbh I'd all for getting Nani. A few years back when Conte arrived he mentioned Tevez and Nani as top players a couple of times. Tevez is here it's time for Nani :D

If we can't get Di Maria, Shaqiri or Cuadrado then we definitely should get Nani. He's no world class but still better than what we currently have. Still better than Biabiany or Menez. He's got potential, it'd be up to Conte to make him again the player he once was.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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I usually agree with most things that you say but this time you are way off.
There is a huge gap in talent between Nani and Robben. Robben is one of the best players on the planet. Nani is nothing special at all. There are lots of superior wingers in the game.
:howler: Please list names, instead of spewing BS.
 
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World thinks, you need winger for succes. Every big team want to use them.
But yesterday, we saw that for winger to get succes, they must overcome opponent and create. The winger must be good enough to make difference in Big games.
Roma winger make the difference in most of serie a game. But not against juventus.

Juventus is big succes in serie a. Less in europe recently. If we want to get winger to be successfull in europe, we must learn from roma.
Wingers only bring success in europe, if they can make difference against europe class.

Juventus needs Pogba and Vidal classe wingers to make difference in europe. But winger is more expensive then centrocampista.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Are we going to sign anyone this winter? All the rumors suddenly died, except few about selling some of our players
Well, the only two really concrete links have always been Menez and Nainggolian.

With Nainggolian we face competition from pretty much everyone in Serie A, and I don't think we want to get caught up in a bidding war, especially if other teams, such as Napoli or Inter can be assumed to have more funds than us.

About Menez I still hear rumours, but I think that in january a pre-contract will be signed and he'll arrive in July.


Don't expect any big signing in the winter mercato, there has rarely ever been one. On top of that, we're doing very well domestically, and probably won't buy anyone for the sake of EL. It makes more sense to look for serious reinforcements in the summer, when there's more time to negitioate a fee, and more time for the player to settle in.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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We need a CB and a couple of wingers.

Chiellini is no longer himself as a CB and Bonucci we know too well about him. Barzagli is getting older.
Hope with some wingers we can play a back 4 in Europe next season.
 

Ocelot

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We need a CB and a couple of wingers.

Chiellini is no longer himself as a CB and Bonucci we know too well about him. Barzagli is getting older.
Hope with some wingers we can play a back 4 in Europe next season.
All our 5 Cbs would walk into every other team in Serie A except for Roma.

Wingers are overrated as fuck. To truly make up for the offensive limitations our Cms would face when playing in a formation with wingers, they'd need to be truly excellent, and we just do not have the money to get them. Menez would mean that we'd have a plan B, which we really need, but not that the 4-3-3 will replace the 3-5-2 as our primary formation.
 

Oggy

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Dec 27, 2005
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Well, the only two really concrete links have always been Menez and Nainggolian.

With Nainggolian we face competition from pretty much everyone in Serie A, and I don't think we want to get caught up in a bidding war, especially if other teams, such as Napoli or Inter can be assumed to have more funds than us.

About Menez I still hear rumours, but I think that in january a pre-contract will be signed and he'll arrive in July.


Don't expect any big signing in the winter mercato, there has rarely ever been one. On top of that, we're doing very well domestically, and probably won't buy anyone for the sake of EL. It makes more sense to look for serious reinforcements in the summer, when there's more time to negitioate a fee, and more time for the player to settle in.
Well I don't expect big signings, I just find it's odd that we are not even linked to any players.
 

JuveJay

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Doubt we will make any significant signings. Things are going more than well in the league, and we've no CL football now to try to boost our squad for that. If this squad can't compete in Serie A and the EL then something is wrong.

Surely we'll see some kids go in and out, maybe a low budget or opportunist move.
 

Ocelot

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Well I don't expect big signings, I just find it's odd that we are not even linked to any players.
True, it is a bit strange that even Tuttojuve and company have stopped linking us to ridicoulus transfers such as Suarez or Di Maria (for whom there maybe might be a small, small chance in the summer, but none in January), but that doesn't change anything in reality, as those were pure BS anyways.

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Doubt we will make any significant signings. Things are going more than well in the league, and we've no CL football now to try to boost our squad for that. If this squad can't compete in Serie A and the EL then something is wrong.

Surely we'll see some kids go in and out, maybe a low budget or opportunist move.
Exactly what I meant.
 
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