Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (24 Viewers)

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Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Not that excited about either of those

Kolarov... meh, I guess it'd allow Asamoah to play CM. Where he's really impressed me tbh.

De Bruyne... too young and inexperienced to depend upon. Especially considering he'd be a starter if we changed formation to accomodate him.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Not that excited about either of those

Kolarov... meh, I guess it'd allow Asamoah to play CM. Where he's really impressed me tbh.

De Bruyne... too young and inexperienced to depend upon. Especially considering he'd be a starter if we changed formation to accomodate him.
Who would u rather have? nainggolan? What would that allow the team to switch to? There are currently no lb in our price range. Kolarov would probably cost around 10m and we could possibly loan him in jan and de bruyne would jsut come on loan to experiment with a plan b.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Kolarov wouldn't allow us to switch to anything either. He would most definitely be played in the 3-5-2. But like I said, i'm not totally against it because Asa at CM is twice the player he is as opposed to playing as a LWB

A plan B of a far from match fit Pepe and a young, inexperienced De Bruyne sounds quite drastically worse than our current 3-5-2


If we are invested in moving to another system then we need to invest properly. We can't be throwing out these relative nobodies and expecting the team to improve.


As much as I dislike 3-5-2, our 3-5-2 would definitely be much better than a 4-3-3 with makeshift, injured or mid-table Italian Wingers. That's not an improvement at all in my eyes.
 
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Kolarov wouldn't allow us to switch to anything either. He would most definitely be played in the 3-5-2. But like I said, i'm not totally against it because Asa at CM is twice the player he is as opposed to playing as a LWB

A plan B of a far from match fit Pepe and a young, inexperienced De Bruyne sounds quite drastically worse than our current 3-5-2


If we are invested in moving to another system then we need to invest properly. We can't be throwing out these relative nobodies and expecting the team to improve.


As much as I dislike 3-5-2, our 3-5-2 would definitely be much better than a 4-3-3 with makeshift, injured or mid-table Italian Wingers. That's not an improvement at all in my eyes.
Never said it was an improvement but in Europe are we going to continue to play a 3-5-2? Also by Feb Pepe should be able to atleast play 60mins. De Bruyne would allow us to play a 4-3-3 or a 4-3-1-2. Kolarov isnt a wingback just like asa isnt. Kolarov if brought would be brought to play lb.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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De Bryne would be ok as a short term solution until next season. But then, if we were happy with the new system. We would still need to spend big on the right players. God help us if we add De Bruyne and an average back up for him to our side, and enter the CL expecting vast improvement.
 

Vialli_92

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De Bryne would be ok as a short term solution until next season. But then, if we were happy with the new system. We would still need to spend big on the right players. God help us if we add De Bruyne and an average back up for him to our side, and enter the CL expecting vast improvement.
Cerci is a decent right winger, he scored and assists pretty well with Torino imagine what he would do playing with Juve with much better players around him?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Never said it was an improvement but in Europe are we going to continue to play a 3-5-2? Also by Feb Pepe should be able to atleast play 60mins. De Bruyne would allow us to play a 4-3-3 or a 4-3-1-2. Kolarov isnt a wingback just like asa isnt. Kolarov if brought would be brought to play lb.
Kolarov won't play as a LB here and I'm pretty sure about that. If we bring him here he'll occupy LWB spot, otherwise he would be defensive liability.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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If Cerci was cheap enough i'd definitely be interested

Although everybodies main concern is how he would play when he's in a side that keeps the ball and doesn't look to sit back and hit on the counter
 
Jul 20, 2012
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De Bryne would be ok as a short term solution until next season. But then, if we were happy with the new system. We would still need to spend big on the right players. God help us if we add De Bruyne and an average back up for him to our side, and enter the CL expecting vast improvement.
Obviously we would have to spend big. However if Marotta is going to continue to spend 18m on back up cms and Conte claims he doesnt have the players to play a 4-3-3 how will Conte play a different formation without getting average players. If we were to switch to a 4-2-3-1 we have enough cms at this point to play that formation. What we are missing is a lb, and two wide men. If pepe gets fit then he can play in that position so we would still need 2 one as a back up and one as a starter. I dont like this formation because it would limit vidal from pushing forward

If we were to play a 4-3-3 we still dont need any cms because we have pirlo, pogba, marchisio, vidal, asa, and padoin. 6 players for 3 spots. For this formation though we would have to play Tevez in a role he doesn't like and we need a lb and a winger.

If we were to play a 4-3-1-2 we still dont need any cms. We would need a cam instead or a trequartista and a lb again. I would personally go with this one because if needed we could slot asa as a lb which I would prefer if he played as a back up cm. We also have deceglie and peluso( I wouldnt let them play there though). Peluso however is a good back up. To me this looks like the most realistic formation we could play given we would only need to purchase 2 players. However this formation would still cost alot. you would need a player like Mata inorder to even change to this formation.

I think Juve will continue with the crap system being the 3-5-2. Life after pirlo will be playing with a trequartista instead of a regista so something along the lines of a 3-4-1-2 like how hamsik played under Mazzari.

In my opinion what Juve need are wingers. Juve play alot of crosses and half the time they dont even reach their man.

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Cerci is a decent right winger, he scored and assists pretty well with Torino imagine what he would do playing with Juve with much better players around him?
Cerci scored all his goals this season playing as a Striker. He is not good.

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Kolarov won't play as a LB here and I'm pretty sure about that. If we bring him here he'll occupy LWB spot, otherwise he would be defensive liability.
So he would be a defensive liability as a lb not as a lwb? lwb need to cover more field. I've seen Kolarov play as a lwb under mancini and he played as a lw and would never track back. He wouldnt be an upgrade if he were to be played as a lwb
 

Zacheryah

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This is probably what Zach would like.Infinite tactical flow.
Actually, that team wouldnt be able to string 1 attack togheter, cause of the lack of it !


No dear peasants, the 41311 Red© formation is the way to go

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Kolarov and De Bruyne in Jan do it
Marrota a week or so ago :

"we dont look to make purchases in january are there arent interesting prospects"

THAT, is all that matters

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Cerci is a decent right winger, he scored and assists pretty well with Torino imagine what he would do playing with Juve with much better players around him?
Somewhere between Giovinco and De Ceglie probably
 

Zacheryah

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Obviously we would have to spend big.
But we wont

If we were to play a 4-3-3 we still dont need any cms because we have pirlo, pogba, marchisio, vidal, asa, and padoin. 6 players for 3 spots. For this formation though we would have to play Tevez in a role he doesn't like and we need a lb and a winger.
Asamoah can be the LB, but our cm's in inferior roles, and tevez away from the center is why we wont do it

If we were to play a 4-3-1-2 we still dont need any cms. We would need a cam instead or a trequartista and a lb again. I would personally go with this one because if needed we could slot asa as a lb which I would prefer if he played as a back up cm. We also have deceglie and peluso( I wouldnt let them play there though). Peluso however is a good back up. To me this looks like the most realistic formation we could play given we would only need to purchase 2 players. However this formation would still cost alot. you would need a player like Mata inorder to even change to this formation.
Not neccecarely. CAM/trequartista are mad expensive. You could put marchisio there, and get a filler cam to make up for the time beeing.
Its better to play the 41311RED© instead

I think Juve will continue with the crap system being the 3-5-2. Life after pirlo will be playing with a trequartista instead of a regista so something along the lines of a 3-4-1-2 like how hamsik played under Mazzari.
Considering all the silverware, the 352 is anything but crap

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I said to get them on loan.
Doesnt remove the price we'd have to eventually pay, or the loan fee itself, or the added wages.

We could do it, and move the payment to next financial year like that, but i'd would have to be a badass buyout fee if we'd do it
 
Jul 20, 2012
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But we wont



Asamoah can be the LB, but our cm's in inferior roles, and tevez away from the center is why we wont do it



Not neccecarely. CAM/trequartista are mad expensive. You could put marchisio there, and get a filler cam to make up for the time beeing.
Its better to play the 41311RED© instead



Considering all the silverware, the 352 is anything but crap

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Doesnt remove the price we'd have to eventually pay, or the loan fee itself, or the added wages.

We could do it, and move the payment to next financial year like that, but i'd would have to be a badass buyout fee if we'd do it
The formation red posted would mean we would need a lb and a regista. So my idea of a cam and lb is expesive? Its exactly the same.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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So he would be a defensive liability as a lb not as a lwb? lwb need to cover more field. I've seen Kolarov play as a lwb under mancini and he played as a lw and would never track back. He wouldnt be an upgrade if he were to be played as a lwb
Yup, he has more cover as LWB. That 3 men defense does the job if he ventures forward and fails to track back.
 

Andy21

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Nov 8, 2013
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Its better to play the 41311RED© instead
When I look to this 41311RED© formation, I am not sure if this is really better than ours 3-5-2. Conte will use 3-5-2 till the end of season. Believe me, we wont buy players in january transfer mercato, except in the case of signin Nainggolan, but other than him I don't think so.
 
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