Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (31 Viewers)

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Bianconero81

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Of course not because he is a far superior player to Cerci. Cerci may aspire to become like him, but he doesn't have 1/10th of his talent and ability. Lentini in his Torino days was a genius.
 

Bianconero81

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:lol: Italian Messi :howler:

Form is temporary, class is permanent. If another Italian rival wishes to waste around 15 million Euros for the "Italian Messi" than so be it ;)

We need to look beyond average/above average acquisitions and squad fillers at this point. We already have too many of those. If we are to acquire a winger, we need someone of real quality.
 

satfootball

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cerci isnot suitable for juve. because he needs space to show his ability. he works well in counter attach situation. while juve's opponenets try to limit spaces, so player like robben is much more useful than cerci.
 

Amer

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I don't think that even 15 million will be enough for Cerci. Torino is in no hurry to sell. Although it might be an co-own with Fiorentina. Torino bought his half in 2012. Don't know if they sorted that out.
 

jakku7

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Cerci and amazing in the same sentence
Have you seen him on the field this season? It appears you haven't.

Cerci is at the moment the best right winger in the league. Of course, it might change soon, if he lost his form, but from my perspective his talent just exploded. He showed a lot of good football in last season, but suffered from lack of consistency. Now his form is more stable, and if he keeps on playing like this, he will be top-notch asset to, for example, Roma or Napoli (in 433 or 451).
 

Osman

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I don't think B81 is someone who does unnecessary stuff like update his views on a player for current top notch performances, easier to judge solely on past ones.

Whoever said it about it being more tricky to excell in a top club who don't counterattack as much as it suits Cerci, made the best point so far on why he shouldn't be signed.
 

Orgut

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Italian Messi?!
He is very overrated but lets see when the season ends we could sell Quag and sign him as Quag is not getting any younger or Vucinic who will probably ask to be sold as I expect Llorente to retain his starting spot along side Tevez and Vucinic might ask to leave if he is not a starter
 

Osman

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Italian Messi?!
He is very overrated but lets see when the season ends we could sell Quag and sign him as Quag is not getting any younger or Vucinic who will probably ask to be sold as I expect Llorente to retain his starting spot along side Tevez and Vucinic might ask to leave if he is not a starter
Left footed wingforward, thats all someone needs to be called italian Messi, I dont know why people pay attention to this superflous labels anymore. I think it was funnier when Sansone was called the italian Messi while doing nothing (I mean the Sansone that was in Sassaulo in B, later Torino and Samp).
 

Amer

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I don't think B81 is someone who does unnecessary stuff like update his views on a player for current top notch performances, easier to judge solely on past ones.

Whoever said it about it being more tricky to excell in a top club who don't counterattack as much as it suits Cerci, made the best point so far on why he shouldn't be signed.
It's clear you haven't seen any game of Torino in last two seasons. Also it's obvious you haven't seen any youtube highlights of this guy. Because of this you don't know what you're talking about.
 

Zacheryah

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I don't think B81 is someone who does unnecessary stuff like update his views on a player for current top notch performances, easier to judge solely on past ones.

Whoever said it about it being more tricky to excell in a top club who don't counterattack as much as it suits Cerci, made the best point so far on why he shouldn't be signed.
I agree, altho i'll still say, he could be a good filler winger if we pay a nice price.

But he offcourse wont be a starter cause he'll suffer giovincoitis. Unable to play from a non counterattacking playstyle
 

Osman

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It's clear you haven't seen any game of Torino in last two seasons. Also it's obvious you haven't seen any youtube highlights of this guy. Because of this you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not saying he is a counterattacking only winger, but that an explosive winger tends to show his best more in a setting like small teams that tend to sit back more often then a top club and get more space on the counter. This is litterally the only valid counter argument to why someone should be reluctant to sign him so far, not laugh and nitpick over how limited he used to be in the past, when current performances is all that matters. Its not unheard of 25 year old has a breakout in his career and stays at this level from now on.



And lol at the Youtube highlights bit, dont worry, I'll hurry up and do that :D Btw, this is a player I seen since he was in his teen years, so I know what type of player he is even if the performances has varied. Right now he seems more complete attacking weapon unlike last time he had a blistering headline catching form in Fiorentina few years back, where he was scoring at every touch for half a season, but he didnt impress me then because he didnt do much in overall play, like nowadays where he tends to dominate proceedings regardless of he scores or not (and no, thankfully I dont tend to watch much Torino games, except when they are facing good opponents).

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I agree, altho i'll still say, he could be a good filler winger if we pay a nice price.

But he offcourse wont be a starter cause he'll suffer giovincoitis. Unable to play from a non counterattacking playstyle
I would buy him if its a good price yeah, dont think we would look after or find much better options then him anymore, unless they are hidden gems, quality wingers tend to be spoken for already, and frown upon the Italian league :p Besides less profile then other top leagues, its seriously a league that doesnt value wingers at all.
 

satfootball

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i can give two example.

torino against roam. he played well because roma pushed forward alot (success)
torino against juve. he was outplayed. because he was controlled and space was limited (failure)
 
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