Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (10 Viewers)

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Jul 20, 2012
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Nah, Di Maria isn't even a starter anymore and he's clearly unhappy plus Madrid don't need him at all.

Pogba on the other hand, has possibly 15 years of playing time left, he's improving all the time and both he and Juve are happy.

I would only accept a ridiculous cash offer for Pogba. And if PSG are serious, that's what we will get.
Psg supposedly will offer 50m in the summer. I wouldnt sell for anything lower then like 60m
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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Yeah PSG may very well start with a 50M bid, but money is little more than imaginary numbers to them at this point

If we play hard ball and get something like 70M euros then that's not so bad tbh

Di Maria (If we want him) could come for 30-35M and we'd be left with the other 35M for whichever player(s) we want for a new formation.
Plus we can get 20M from sales at least. So we could be in a great position if PSG are seriously intent on buying Pogba.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Yeah PSG may very well start with a 50M bid, but money is little more than imaginary numbers to them at this point

If we play hard ball and get something like 70M euros then that's not so bad tbh

Di Maria (If we want him) could come for 30-35M and we'd be left with the other 35M for whichever player(s) we want for a new formation.
Plus we can get 20M from sales at least. So we could be in a great position if PSG are seriously intent on buying Pogba.
I would sell him for that amount. Yes he is extremely talented but we can only hold onto him for so long until he wants more money and wants to move to another club.


Also supposedly Manure want Vidal and are supposedly going to "break the bank" for him.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Pogba is probably destined to move away from us sooner or later, sadly

So if we had a 20M Summer budget + 15-20M from selling unwanted players + 70M for Pogba we would be in a position to build for a new formation and do it right. No stop-gap players in the starting XI. Only quality. That's 100-110 Million right there.

After the World Cup, Reus has a clause in his contract that dictates he can go for 30M
Di Maria would cost something Similar. Mata could possibly go for 20M, he is a top CAM but his situation at Chelski is far from good. Criscito would probably cost around 12M.

We could bring in somebody like Menez for free as our first choice bench Winger. If either Reus of Di Maria can't be purchased we could bring in somebody like Nani. We could get some real quality wide men. If we moved to a 4-2-3-1 we wouldn't really need another midfielder, possibly one more at the most.



If we had 100M to work with, what line-up would you like to see?
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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You expect Pogba to be sold for 70m,at the same time expect the likes of Mata and Reus to be available for pittance amounts ? Yeah nice dream you've got there.

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And the clause regarding Reus activates in 2015 ,not this year.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Er... really?


I don't care if Reus scores 600 goals this season, a release clause is a release clause. It's not up to Dortmund.
As for Mata, like I said his situation is an odd one. He's unhappy, Mou wants him gone and Chelsea don't need the money.

No such complications exist for Pogba. If we don't sell him for at least 60 Million then we've failed miserably.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1613756/borussia-dortmund-reveal-marco-reus-release-clause?cc=4716

Ok through this source i just got to know Reus can leave if any club offers 35m by the end of this season.So my apologies.Forget about the money for a second ,why would Reus be remotely be even interested in joining us when there's EPL clubs with perhaps much attractive wage offers at his end ? You can talk about all the prestige and history and all but at this moment we're not a top European club hence its going to be difficult to attract international calibre players compared to say in the league where we posses that leverage and hence can buy anyone from within the league.

Pogba being sold for 60-70m is just what you're hoping for.Its not written in the stars or anything.I bet we could still accept a 50m or a lower bid.

Mata is a world class player and Chelsea are not a charity organization to let him go for pittance amounts.It would take a minimum of atleast 30m+ to lure him.Lets stop being delusional for a second here and be realistic.Lets not act like Milan fans.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Whether Reus decided to join us or not is a different matter, but the point is that we can afford players such as him with the sale of Pogba and some dead wood players. I'm not really sure how this is delusional.

Ok, let's say we sell Pogba for 50M (Anything lower would really be criminally insane) and we sell the likes of Vucinic for a combined 20M. There's 70M.

Plus, we obviously have some sort of Summer budget at around 20M. There's a total of 90M. Now people just ignore all of the realistic steps in getting the 90M and focus on the number then talk about it being unrealistic. There's 3 very realistic steps in order to get that sort of money.

On the Mata case, well yeah if we or any other club were trying to buy Mata 2 years ago then we would have had to put up 40M + to even get a conversation with Chelsea. But prices aren't just determined by players ability. Right now, Mata is in a bad situation and his own coach doesn't even want him. So his price is naturally going to be lower than it would if his situation was entirely different.



Out:

Giovinco
Vucinic
PDC
Padoin
One CB (Should we switch to a back 4)
Pogba - unfortunately



IN:

2 quality wingers, 1/2 cheap back up wingers
1 reasonably good CM, for depth purposes
1 left back.

Optional:

Some very cheap signings which would help us maintain our squad depth, without costing much at all.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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For his quality alone Mata would go for atleast 30m let alone the situation he is in at present.The guy is only 25,probably yet to reach his prime.As you said,Chelsea dont need the money which is why they wont let go off him until some club offers a reasonable enough transfer fee to even sell him in the first place.20m wont get you anywhere.
 

Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1613756/borussia-dortmund-reveal-marco-reus-release-clause?cc=4716

Ok through this source i just got to know Reus can leave if any club offers 35m by the end of this season.So my apologies.Forget about the money for a second ,why would Reus be remotely be even interested in joining us when there's EPL clubs with perhaps much attractive wage offers at his end ? You can talk about all the prestige and history and all but at this moment we're not a top European club hence its going to be difficult to attract international calibre players compared to say in the league where we posses that leverage and hence can buy anyone from within the league.

Pogba being sold for 60-70m is just what you're hoping for.Its not written in the stars or anything.I bet we could still accept a 50m or a lower bid.

Mata is a world class player and Chelsea are not a charity organization to let him go for pittance amounts.It would take a minimum of atleast 30m+ to lure him.Lets stop being delusional for a second here and be realistic.Lets not act like Milan fans.
There is no need to say sorry Cusp u r totally right the clause cannot be activated before summer 2015 so it just means the source is crap like most reports considering Dortmund. Dortmund CEO Watzke and plenty of sources have confirmed it countless times and Watzke also stated that nothing could make them sell Reus before that time. BTW Real have already tried with a 50m bid last summer, but no chance..Dortmund have enough money and they ll lose Lewandowski for sure and if Gundogan wont extent his contract, then he ll also leave upcoming summer..no other important player ll be sold.

Reus today said, that only Dortmund matter and he is not thinking at all about a move and that he is very happy to be part of Dortmund.
 
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