Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (30 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

You could make case for Pogba, but not for the other two. Tevez is rather average dribbler.

Which is how I see Lavezzi
As in my edited post, he just makes more attempts to dribble but loses possession most times. Probably he just doesn't know how to do much else

 

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[Red]

I'd say Tevez is technically the better dribbler.

Lavezzi has the acceleration that allows him to beat men quite easily, though.

 

[Zacheryah]

Unless you can name players who Juve could realistically sign, I don't see the point in your complaint.

Better just get used to the fact that there are so few good central defenders around just now.

Given the current lack of good players in that position, I'd say Juve have actually got themselves a good batch.

Apart from benatia, i dont know wich defender in Italy i'd take over bonucci, outside juventus. Its a painfull fact that modern football is severely declining due to the abscence of good defenders, wich leads to lesser forwards cause they arent taxed anymore like they where used to.

The reactions about Lavezzi are disgusting. Seriously, what fucking shit is this ?

We got Coman, and Berardi. Lavezzi is THE ideal signing for right now. by the time he's past it, those other two will have replaced him. 15mil is a joke for a player of his quality.

IF we get Lavezzi, we can actually start with the 4231 pretty much as the starting formation.


But no, suddenly he's "worse then vucinic". Seriously these fucking idiots. Lavezzi was amongst the 4 best argentine players on the world cup. PSG bought him for a reason.
Lets not be Peasants, and be realistic. We dont know if we can spend another 15mil, but if we'd get Lavezzi, it would be fantastic

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I'd say Tevez is technically the better dribbler.

Lavezzi has the acceleration that allows him to beat men quite easily, though.

Wich is why Tevez is a SS that could also play cam, whilst Lavezzi should be on the wing

 

[Vlad]

Which is how I see Lavezzi
As in my edited post, he just makes more attempts to dribble but loses possession most times. Probably he just doesn't know how to do much else

Loses posession most of the time is an overstatement, but we'll have to disagree on this one.

He was great for PSG in the CL, along with Messi and Mascherano Argentina's best player on the WC, previously during his time in Napoli he excelled and was well known for his great dribbling abilities.

 

[Zacheryah]

There's no system that I'd want to play that would allow both Tevez and Lavezzi to play anything like as well as they can.

One would always end up being sacrificed somehow.

---Pogba--Vidal

Lavezzi--Tevez--Coman

----Llorente

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I have been corrected by Zach. My mind is changed

 

[Red]

---Pogba--Vidal

Lavezzi--Tevez--Coman

----Llorente

Haven't seen Coman, but unless he's Nedved, I wouldn't want to play like that.

And I don't see the point in suggesting Pirlo-less formations, even with Allegri in charge.

 

[donpiero]

I don't think with marotta we can aim higher than Lavezzi. Considering the alternatives (candreva, cerci) I certainly prefer him.

 

[Zacheryah]

Haven't seen Coman, but unless he's Nedved, I wouldn't want to play like that.

And I don't see the point in suggesting Pirlo-less formations, even with Allegri in charge.

but you arent answering the question

 

[Red]

but you arent answering the question

What's the question?

 

[Zacheryah]

I don't think with marotta we can aim higher than Lavezzi. Considering the alternatives (candreva, cerci) I certainly prefer him.

So, if we would have a different GM, we'd suddenly have billions ?

Tevez deal wasent low enough for you ?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

---Pogba--Vidal

Lavezzi--Tevez--Coman

----Llorente

I like how you think Coman is ready to be depended on as a starter, when it took quite a while for you to be convinced by the far superior Pogba.

Or it because of the importance of the CM position? Or Coman is more proven with his 6 or so senior appearances for PSG

 

[Zacheryah]

What's the question?

You asked for a formation in wich Lavezzi and Tevez could do their thing, without losing to much of their capabilities

 

[Red]

You asked for a formation in wich Lavezzi and Tevez could do their thing, without losing to much of their capabilities

I didn't say you couldn't get the most out of both of them.

I said there wasn't a system I'd want to play that could get the best out of both of them.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

4-2-3-1/4-4-2 would work for both of them, however yes those are both Pirlo free formations.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You asked for a formation in wich Lavezzi and Tevez could do their thing, without losing to much of their capabilities

But it's not realistic because Pirlo is on the bench, and Coman is starting. Ofc it can happen sometimes, but we're not going to buy Lavezzi for these rare occasions

 

[Dostoevsky]

PSG bought him for a reason.

While I agree he'd be a good signing for us at this point I think that's a silly thing to say.

I can also say there's a reason why PSG is selling him

As for Bonucci, I can do nothing but laugh when it comes to that player. I don't know why people say stuff 'there are no WC defenders around, that's why we're not making a move'. Well, let's wake up for a moment there. Firstly, I do agree there's a lack of quality defenders around. Secondly, even if they were available there's simply no way we'd stand a chance to sign one lol. What we can do is sign a player that's a rising star. Instead of wasting 15mln on Bonucci/Ogbonna we had a chance to sign Benatia for 7mln. If we're playing a 4 man defense then Bonucci should be sold as fast as possible. There are plenty of mediocre defenders around who could replace him here easily. Nobody would notice him missing. Even if the new defender screws up it's not like we haven't seen that from Bonucci. But we'd actually have a defender who's useful in 4 man defense.

 

[Andy21]

@Red VS @Zacheryah

 

[Zacheryah]

I like how you think Coman is ready to be depended on as a starter, when it took quite a while for you to be convinced by the far superior Pogba.

Or it because of the importance of the CM position? Or Coman is more proven with his 6 or so senior appearances for PSG

Pogba had Marchisio standing in his way +cm is far more important then winger when it comes to sacrificing defensive ability

Coman on the other hand, what left wingers do we got ? Pereyra and Giovinco. Thats like comparing an assault rifle to a handpistol and a wet towel


We are adapting to wingers, with Pepe and Lavezzi right, and Coman/Pereyra left, we can try to start like this

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I didn't say you couldn't get the most out of both of them.

I said there wasn't a system I'd want to play that could get the best out of both of them.

Oh i see. You think its to soon to remove Pirlo ?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

lavezzi is average, maybe a notch better than a fit pepe