Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (82 Viewers)
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Pogba and Pirlo came for free. Tevez was pushed out of City. Getting Vidal was huge. I love every single one of those transfers.
But that's not even the point here.
Many members were saying how we can afford big and sign a top player. Those names don't count since you have to wait for their contract to expire. Majority suggested how we can sign a world class player, a game changer. Majority thought signing player like Sanchez was realistic. It's those names... players that are in club but attainable. When we fail to sign those (...if we even attempted) then people make comments like yours how we signed Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo and Pogba. Yeah, we did. But that has nothing to do with my argument.
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Read my post.
But that's not even the point here.
Many members were saying how we can afford big and sign a top player. Those names don't count since you have to wait for their contract to expire. Majority suggested how we can sign a world class player, a game changer. Majority thought signing player like Sanchez was realistic. It's those names... players that are in club but attainable. When we fail to sign those (...if we even attempted) then people make comments like yours how we signed Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo and Pogba. Yeah, we did. But that has nothing to do with my argument.
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Read my post.
Was only interested to see how you think.
For me both Llorente and Tevez are top players. Vidal was also top player when we brought him, coming from a great season in Germany, key player for excellent Leverkusen side. Certainly wasn't our 2nd or 3rd option as we have been following him for a while. Don't let the price confuse you.
For me both Llorente and Tevez are top players. Vidal was also top player when we brought him, coming from a great season in Germany, key player for excellent Leverkusen side. Certainly wasn't our 2nd or 3rd option as we have been following him for a while. Don't let the price confuse you.
It was you (and one of the many) who I had arguments with, yet now you post totally different things.
I never said those are not top players.
You was speaking for months how we can 'easily' sign a top player. By top we meant someone expensive, we surely didn't talk about Coman. You said we could land Sanchez and many other players if we wanted.
Even at this point it has nothing to do with price, even if you wanna look at it that way. Evra, Pereyra and Morata are not top players. But we'll see, hopefully we do get to sign one.
I never said those are not top players.
You was speaking for months how we can 'easily' sign a top player. By top we meant someone expensive, we surely didn't talk about Coman. You said we could land Sanchez and many other players if we wanted.
Even at this point it has nothing to do with price, even if you wanna look at it that way. Evra, Pereyra and Morata are not top players. But we'll see, hopefully we do get to sign one.
Then maybe the majority should temper their expectations a little bit. And is 42.5 million for one player, given Juve's business model (at this present time, subject to change with the improved TV and Sponsorship revenue starting next year), a player who is 50/50 as to whether he is one of those game changers that you speak of, the way that Juve does things?
Is that the way that Juve did things in the past? Of course not. Things won't change now. This club is funded and run by a corporation, where winning is nice, but the bottom line is nicer. They would love to win, sure, but not leverage themselves with a ton of debt in the process. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but I understand. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that with all of the net spending that Juve have done in the past 4 years, that they were one of the clubs who were NOT sanctioned by FFP.
Now imagine if they got hit with fines, what would have happened to this club. Conte would have left 2 months ago, instead of 4 days ago.
They will spend. I believe that they will,. When the money is there, which I hope is next year due to the aforementioned financial windfalls coming their way, the club will allow more money towards not only the transfer budget,but more importantly, the wage budget, because that is where I think that things get tricky. That's why I also think that it is smarter to get younger much sooner rather than later, as the salaries can be controlled a little longer. I mean, it's not as if Marotta and Agnelli get to keep whatever they don't spend of the transfer budget.
But hey, that's me. What do I know
Is that the way that Juve did things in the past? Of course not. Things won't change now. This club is funded and run by a corporation, where winning is nice, but the bottom line is nicer. They would love to win, sure, but not leverage themselves with a ton of debt in the process. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but I understand. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that with all of the net spending that Juve have done in the past 4 years, that they were one of the clubs who were NOT sanctioned by FFP.
Now imagine if they got hit with fines, what would have happened to this club. Conte would have left 2 months ago, instead of 4 days ago.
They will spend. I believe that they will,. When the money is there, which I hope is next year due to the aforementioned financial windfalls coming their way, the club will allow more money towards not only the transfer budget,but more importantly, the wage budget, because that is where I think that things get tricky. That's why I also think that it is smarter to get younger much sooner rather than later, as the salaries can be controlled a little longer. I mean, it's not as if Marotta and Agnelli get to keep whatever they don't spend of the transfer budget.
But hey, that's me. What do I know
The wages are our biggest problem. Milan signed Zlatan ffs. And Balotelli 
So, it's almost as if you hedging your club on future earnings, and then you see what happens. Zlatan gone. Silva gone.
Everyone knows that bro.
Marotta and Nedved have both said that Juve are not selling him.
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1st on my list. Everyone else a distant 2nd.
Marotta and Nedved have both said that Juve are not selling him.
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At the end of yest session Allegri formed 2 teams for a short match which hinted towards 4-3-2-1 (Gio & Tevez behind Llorente).GdS
Erik Lamela (22), Stefan Jovetic (24), Javier Pastore (25) & Isco (22) are the attacking targets on Massimiliano Allegri's list. [GdS]
Erik Lamela (22), Stefan Jovetic (24), Javier Pastore (25) & Isco (22) are the attacking targets on Massimiliano Allegri's list. [GdS]
I said 15mln. Yeah, simply because our most expensive players were Mirko, Asamoah and Isla. Then we had Bonucci and Ogbonna. Bar those we had Melo/Diego as our most expensive players.
So I was pretty much aiming at our history of transfers. (Tevez, Pogba, Vidal, Llorente, Barzagli, Licht = ~33mln)
But you're gonna be one of those to say 'we signed Morata, Pereyra, Evra and Candreva (??), we could have signed a world class player if we wanted'. But you know what, that's not the case and it's what I've been talking about for months.
So I was pretty much aiming at our history of transfers. (Tevez, Pogba, Vidal, Llorente, Barzagli, Licht = ~33mln)
But you're gonna be one of those to say 'we signed Morata, Pereyra, Evra and Candreva (??), we could have signed a world class player if we wanted'. But you know what, that's not the case and it's what I've been talking about for months.
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