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Juventino[RUS]

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Mar 9, 2006
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You're exaggerating this quite a bit here. Iturbe would be a steal @ 20m with how the current transfer market goes for 20 year old attackers oozing potential, and especially since he's already begun to show his talent. It might sad, but we're just not going to get someone better in that 20-30m price range. Not unless they're 28+ years old, or have a history of injury problems... Young talented players, with potential to become great, this costs money. It doesn't often cost that 50mil price range @ 20 years old, but it certainly costs 20+ mil. I think Iturbe @28-30mil would be overpaying, but 20-25 mil seems about right.
we are not going to play 433, we don't need attacking wingers for that amount of money just for Plan B
 

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Andy21

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Nov 8, 2013
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Seal the deal for Iturbe 24 mil.
Give Quags + 2 mil. for Darmian or sell Quags and try to buy Darmian / Janmaat
Pay 2 mil. for loan to bring Morata
Pay 2 - 3 mil. to bring Rabiot

I hope it's done as soon as possible.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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You're exaggerating this quite a bit here. Iturbe would be a steal @ 20m with how the current transfer market goes for 20 year old attackers oozing potential, and especially since he's already begun to show his talent. It might sad, but we're just not going to get someone better in that 20-30m price range. Not unless they're 28+ years old, or have a history of injury problems... Young talented players, with potential to become great, this costs money. It doesn't often cost that 50mil price range @ 20 years old, but it certainly costs 20+ mil. I think Iturbe @28-30mil would be overpaying, but 20-25 mil seems about right.
Thank you.

Ppl need to catch up with the reality and understand that the market inflation is at a soaring high.Half decent players will have 20m price tag on their heads nowadays.You gotta accept it otherwise you'd be restricted to buying flops/rejects and old players from other clubs hoping they turn out to be great.So far,some of these deals has worked for us but u cant always rely on this policy.
Resale value is impt for the club in this current juncture as much as ppl hate to admit it.
Its how Chelsea have QUITE EASILY surpassed Ffp and also have

- - - Updated - - -

made some excellent transfers in the process.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Juventino[RUS];4605148 said:
we are not going to play 433, we don't need attacking wingers for that amount of money just for Plan B
So you're there in for a surprise if you think we'll spend 25m for a player and then bench him.

433 is coming @Hustini @Trequartista

:tuttosport:
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Juventino[RUS];4605210 said:
433 will mean zero tituli, I don't need it neither you
We don't know it. At the same time I could say we can't go on with 352 anymore because it means zero tituli. Your statement is as good as mine at this point.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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Mar 9, 2006
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We don't know it. At the same time I could say we can't go on with 352 anymore because it means zero tituli. Your statement is as good as mine at this point.
I know it - since Vucinic and Quag will be offloaded soon, we have only Giovinco who could be used as LW and Llorente who could be used as central forward, also Tevez will be benched because of it, so it does mean 0 tituli for us, you need it?
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Juventino[RUS];4605224 said:
I know it - since Vucinic and Quag will be offloaded soon, we have only Giovinco who could be used as LW and Llorente who could be used as central forward, also Tevez will be benched because of it, so it does mean 0 tituli for us, you need it?
Of course I don't need it. Tevez won't be benched and Giovinco will be utilized in a much better way thanks to the switch. It seems we're also bringing in Morata who is used to 433 and playing with his back to the goal. Llorente will benefit a lot from the switch too. Licht, Barazgli and Chiellini too.

You can't just come out and say "no 352 no titles" that's an empty statement. Our player are getting older and it seems Conte's decided we can't go on another season with this squad [and most probably with 352 by looking at our transfers]. All we do now is just speculating because we don't know for sure what he's got on his mind but everything points out at formation change.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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Of course I don't need it. Tevez won't be benched and Giovinco will be utilized in a much better way thanks to the switch. It seems we're also bringing in Morata who is used to 433 and playing with his back to the goal. Llorente will benefit a lot from the switch too. Licht, Barazgli and Chiellini too.

You can't just come out and say "no 352 no titles" that's an empty statement. Our player are getting older and it seems Conte's decided we can't go on another season with this squad [and most probably with 352 by looking at our transfers]. All we do now is just speculating because we don't know for sure what he's got on his mind but everything points out at formation change.
It can't be empty statement since i gave you my arguments :sergio: :sergio: Tevez is natural SS, he is useless as winger, Morata's price is 20-25m, you want to tell me that we'll sign him and Iturbe for 25m?

Morata (Giovinco) - Llorente (tevez) - Iturbe (Pepe)
Zero Tituli :touched:
 

pibull1986

Reggae Boy
Oct 26, 2009
322
Pedulla said that Bozzo wasn't in Italy to discuss Morata but instead to discuss other things. Pedulla also said that Juve will sign 2 attackers out of Iturbe, Morata, and Ibarbo.

And this

Sportitalia - Bozzo (agente Marrone): "Luca destinato a restare alla Juve"

Translation

Marrone is staying at Juve
Hope he's not in town for our bwoys
 

Ramin

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Nov 18, 2003
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Why ppl still bother putting Pepe in formations when he hasn't played a single full game in two years? He played one league game for 12/13 season, and copa italia game for 13/14 season. He was never any good to begin and he's not relevant anymore.
 

Nikola

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May 21, 2009
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Some thoughts of mine..

Let's say we get an offer for Pogba from some rich club this summer..

If David Luiz went to PSG for 60m euros than Pogba is worth at least 70-80m.

We sell him for 75m euros.

With that money we can buy 2 wingers (Gaitan,Di Maria,Sanchez,Griezmann) and pay them for one year (3-3.5/4m each) (for later don't know.. maybe some sponsorship money?)

Asamoah can play as CM or LB (if necessary..)


Now we must buy at least one LB and CM player. For CM role let's say Pereyra/Guarin and for LB Evra/Adriano (from Barcelona) or maybe Kolarov/Baines?? (maybe too expensive.. don't know..) or we can try to convert some CM/CB/RB player to LB like we did with Asamoah.


I think that this can be done with cca 100-110m euros. We have at least 25m of our own money..


With that move (sell Pogba) we can play 433 and 352.




I must say that i do not support selling Pogba,but with that money our attack would be better,defense good and middle ok.



Any opinion on this?


P.S. If somebody wants to make field formation... go ahead :)
 

frzl

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2006
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Any opinion on this?
nah, let´s keep pogba ^^. btw: i think it wouldn´t be that easy:
- first of all: if we sell pogba for a ridiculous sum everybody will know about it and will charge us ridiculous sums in return.
- wages... you can´t just say "we are good for one year. let´s see what happens afterwards". milan know.

imo we are doing exactly the right thing right now. until now we played it relatively safe and built a commanding lead over the rest of serie a.
now we are ready to take some risks and reduce the average age and wages at the same time.
even if one of the bigger signings flops (let´s say iturbe) we still got pretty much all key players who dominated the league last year as "back-up".
obviously we are not guaranteed to win serie a again but the chances are quite high, especially because we seem to be adding some much needed "flair and fancy" and will probably bolster the midfield as well.

i know many will be disappointed with this but if we really manage to pull off a mercato like iturbe, morata (loan+...), LB (even evra) and some young guns, while keeping hold off our key players, i will fap myself to death ^^
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Juventino[RUS];4605243 said:
It can't be empty statement since i gave you my arguments :sergio: :sergio: Tevez is natural SS, he is useless as winger, Morata's price is 20-25m, you want to tell me that we'll sign him and Iturbe for 25m?

Morata (Giovinco) - Llorente (tevez) - Iturbe (Pepe)
Zero Tituli :touched:
You didn't give any arguments just a statement.

Morata's price is 15m + bonuses. We want to loan him it seems. If we succeed or not it's another matter.

Tevez/Giovinco - Llorente/Morata - Iturbe/Coman/Pepe

I guess it'll be something like this but It's just me guessing. We don't know anything yet.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
3,718
Tevez/Giovinco - Llorente/Morata - Iturbe/Coman/Pepe

I guess it'll be something like this but It's just me guessing. We don't know anything yet.
exactly... we just don´t know.
but your line-up certainly makes a lot more sence than Morata (Giovinco) - Llorente (tevez) - Iturbe (Pepe) ;)
and even if things go wrong all new/likely signings (despite coman i guess) could be used in a 352 as well. so it´s not really do or die yet ^^
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Now we must buy at least one LB and CM player. For CM role let's say Pereyra/Guarin and for LB Evra/Adriano (from Barcelona) or maybe Kolarov/Baines?? (maybe too expensive.. don't know..) or we can try to convert some CM/CB/RB player to LB like we did with Asamoah.
Romulo & Evra maybe
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Thank you.

Ppl need to catch up with the reality and understand that the market inflation is at a soaring high.Half decent players will have 20m price tag on their heads nowadays.You gotta accept it otherwise you'd be restricted to buying flops/rejects and old players from other clubs hoping they turn out to be great.So far,some of these deals has worked for us but u cant always rely on this policy.
Resale value is impt for the club in this current juncture as much as ppl hate to admit it.
Its how Chelsea have QUITE EASILY surpassed Ffp and also have

- - - Updated - - -



made some excellent transfers in the process.
Some interesting toughts there :tup:

Some thoughts of mine..

Let's say we get an offer for Pogba from some rich club this summer..

If David Luiz went to PSG for 60m euros than Pogba is worth at least 70-80m.

We sell him for 75m euros.

With that money we can buy 2 wingers (Gaitan,Di Maria,Sanchez,Griezmann) and pay them for one year (3-3.5/4m each) (for later don't know.. maybe some sponsorship money?)

Asamoah can play as CM or LB (if necessary..)


Now we must buy at least one LB and CM player. For CM role let's say Pereyra/Guarin and for LB Evra/Adriano (from Barcelona) or maybe Kolarov/Baines?? (maybe too expensive.. don't know..) or we can try to convert some CM/CB/RB player to LB like we did with Asamoah.


I think that this can be done with cca 100-110m euros. We have at least 25m of our own money..


With that move (sell Pogba) we can play 433 and 352.




I must say that i do not support selling Pogba,but with that money our attack would be better,defense good and middle ok.



Any opinion on this?


P.S. If somebody wants to make field formation... go ahead :)
God not this shit again.
This isnt football manager or FIFA14
We cannot afford those players with the wagebill we are allready carrying
prices inflate when people know you have 100mil so the fee's wont work eighter

Also, we chose to invest in younger players, and not these big names we cannot afford nor sustain
 

GrecoJuve

Senior Member
May 19, 2014
1,866
You didn't give any arguments just a statement.

Morata's price is 15m + bonuses. We want to loan him it seems. If we succeed or not it's another matter.

Tevez/Giovinco - Llorente/Morata - Iturbe/Coman/Pepe

I guess it'll be something like this but It's just me guessing. We don't know anything yet.
Pepe? Ohh guys you really believe in that guy? He is finished..he didn't play football two years now..We need also some winger for depth.
 
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