Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (13 Viewers)

[j0ker]

in 352 you have pirlo and tevez beeing creative, whilst vidal,pogba,wingbacks make actions and there is the bonucci long balls to llorente if they push to much

in this 433, Pirlo is gone, bonucci is gone, Tevez as centerforward cannot drop back and act as a makeshift playmaker.

So what you got left, is 2 cm's who can make actions, 2 wingers who can make actions, and 0 creative players

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That lineup is inferior to the current one

Wat? Where to?

And you're telling me that Sanchez is less creative than Bonucci?

 

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[Zacheryah]

Wat? Where to?

And you're telling me that Sanchez is less creative than Bonucci?

Oh lol, i tought u had a cdm instead of pirlo. Misread it


Even worse, you'll force pogba and vidal into mostly defensive roles, to cover for sanchez and cerci

 

[Bianconero81]

Brace yourselves. Summer is coming.

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[zizinho]

 

[Suns]

in 352 you have pirlo and tevez beeing creative, whilst vidal,pogba,wingbacks make actions and there is the bonucci long balls to llorente if they push to much

in this 433, Pirlo is gone, bonucci is gone, Tevez as centerforward cannot drop back and act as a makeshift playmaker.

So what you got left, is 2 cm's who can make actions, 2 wingers who can make actions, and 0 creative players

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That lineup is inferior to the current one

You know nothing of football if you honestly think we'd have less creativity that way. You can say a lot of things about that formation, a bit worse defensively, less compact in midfield or even less presence in the box but less creativity from what we have now is stupid. We have no creativity today except for Pirlo and the occasional Tevez touch here and there when he gets to borrow the ball from Licht, Chiellini, Bonucci and Asamoah.

Also, Pirlo is aging, sooner or later we will have to move on without him. Also Pirlo's creativity is dependent on his team through runs. He is too far away from goal to have that be that real finishing threat constantly.

Bonucci is not a source of creativity for us, it is because of our formation and the fact that the opponents don't really see Leo's long balls from the other side of the pitch as danger. The man is a fuckin' defender for fuck sake. I swear dude, your football views are upside down, you want our attackers to be good in every defensive facet of the game and you want our defender to be our creative force.

 

[Zacheryah]

You know nothing of football if you honestly think we'd have less creativity that way. You can say a lot of things about that formation, a bit worse defensively, less compact in midfield or even less presence in the box but less creativity from what we have now is stupid. We have no creativity today except for Pirlo and the occasional Tevez touch here and there when he gets to borrow the ball from Licht, Chiellini, Bonucci and Asamoah.

Also, Pirlo is aging, sooner or later we will have to move on without him. Also Pirlo's creativity is dependent on his team through runs. He is too far away from goal to have that be that real finishing threat constantly.

Bonucci is not a source of creativity for us, it is because of our formation and the fact that the opponents don't really see Leo's long balls from the other side of the pitch as danger. The man is a fuckin' defender for fuck sake. I swear dude, your football views are upside down, you want our attackers to be good in every defensive facet of the game and you want our defender to be our creative force.

I did not say bonucci was a creative source.
I exactly said that pirlo and tevez are creative, vidal,pogba, wingbacks make actions, and bonucci has long balls to llorente.
Those are attacking routes. We got 2 creative players, and thats it.


Here is the deal. This 433 is pathetic.

Vidal and Pogba will be stripped of their offensive potential cause covering for everything in the midfield.
Tevez in a central role will remove his playmaking capabilities. Wich means we ONLY got pirlo as a creator.
Bonucci is a fine alternative when the enemy presses us. Offcourse, fans of flair and fancy will go in eternal menstruation because of the idea of long balls, but if the enemy is pressing very hard, playing long balls over their midfield to llorente, who lays off to tevez who now has much more space, wich will makes them think twice to do that. Taking that away, will force us to move EVERYTHING trough pirlo. Its very easy to defend. Mark pirlo, fullbacks on our wingers and keep holding mids close to our cm's and we are done for.

What do we got left ? two wingers, and nothing in the center. What will the wingers do, cross it to tevez ? Wont work at all. Bench tevez ? Our best player ?fucking rediculous.



Juventus can only go forward with a system that allows Vidal and Pogba offensive freedom, whilst deploying two forwards.

Like the 352

 

[BottomLine]

I did not say bonucci was a creative source.
I exactly said that pirlo and tevez are creative, vidal,pogba, wingbacks make actions, and bonucci has long balls to llorente.
Those are attacking routes. We got 2 creative players, and thats it.


Here is the deal. This 433 is pathetic.

Vidal and Pogba will be stripped of their offensive potential cause covering for everything in the midfield.
Tevez in a central role will remove his playmaking capabilities. Wich means we ONLY got pirlo as a creator.
Bonucci is a fine alternative when the enemy presses us. Offcourse, fans of flair and fancy will go in eternal menstruation because of the idea of long balls, but if the enemy is pressing very hard, playing long balls over their midfield to llorente, who lays off to tevez who now has much more space, wich will makes them think twice to do that. Taking that away, will force us to move EVERYTHING trough pirlo. Its very easy to defend. Mark pirlo, fullbacks on our wingers and keep holding mids close to our cm's and we are done for.

What do we got left ? two wingers, and nothing in the center. What will the wingers do, cross it to tevez ? Wont work at all. Bench tevez ? Our best player ?$#@!ing rediculous.



Juventus can only go forward with a system that allows Vidal and Pogba offensive freedom, whilst deploying two forwards.

Like the 352

But again- considering Nani/Sanchez a done deal. Is there alternative to a 4-3-3 next year? if you have any idea i'd like to read it.
We can't play 3-5-2 against Bayern or Real Madrid. 4-3-3 (or a variation of it) with the right players can work against any team in the world.

 

[zizinho]

Juventus can only go forward with a system that allows Vidal and Pogba offensive freedom, whilst deploying two forwards.

Like the 352

3-4-2-1 with Tevez and Sanchez behind Llorente/Immobile???

 

[Orgut]

@Lion

As is writing that we want Villa.

I know he is old but also WC
I definitely take him

 

[Lion]

@Lion

As is writing that we want Villa.

even at his age he is better than llorente or tevez.

sadlt it will never happen. just like i will never see rooney in a juve shirt

 

[Gep]

just like i will never see rooney in a juve shirt

That's cos that porky pig won't fit into it. Oink.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Brace yourselves. Summer is coming.

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I wasn't expecting Astori link #245 until the last Week of the season.

Wouldn't surprise me if we're linked to him yet again 2 days after the Summer window closes in a shock Goal.com exclusive.

"Astori agrees terms with Juventus for January"


Every.Damn.Year ffs

 

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[Bjerknes]

in 352 you have pirlo and tevez beeing creative, whilst vidal,pogba,wingbacks make actions and there is the bonucci long balls to llorente if they push to much

in this 433, Pirlo is gone, bonucci is gone, Tevez as centerforward cannot drop back and act as a makeshift playmaker.

So what you got left, is 2 cm's who can make actions, 2 wingers who can make actions, and 0 creative players

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That lineup is inferior to the current one

Do you realize that you're actually insisting on the 352 just because of a center back who isn't that good to begin with can play long balls to a striker? Do you understand how sad that sounds?

 

[PowerNedved]

We can't pull off 4 3 3 with Pirlo as cdm, the player in that position must be able to cover a huge ground on field left for the fullbacks and cms who are attack minded also in 4 3 3 the cms most be creative to offer opportunities to the wingers, Pogba and Vidal are box to box, very offensive cm but are not creative, it would be a disaster

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba.


Would work just fine.

 

[PowerNedved]

Even PSG plays Motta as dm in their 4 3 3 and place Verratti as rcm because of that same matter as with pirlo

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Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba.


Would work just fine.

As I said "we cant pull off 4 3 3 WITH PIRLO"
Who would be the creative cm there??

 

[Lion]

@Lion

As is writing that we want Villa.

We can't pull off 4 3 3 with Pirlo as cdm, the player in that position must be able to cover a huge ground on field left for the fullbacks and cms who are attack minded also in 4 3 3 the cms most be creative to offer opportunities to the wingers, Pogba and Vidal are box to box, very offensive cm but are not creative, it would be a disaster

you can't have a cake and eat it too.


every system has a weakness. pirlo will be fine in possessiion based juve.

but juventus does lack depth in midfield. i wanted hernanes for this very reason, but we should also bring marrone as depth

 

[PowerNedved]

you can't have a cake and eat it too.


every system has a weakness. pirlo will be fine in possessiion based juve.

but juventus does lack depth in midfield. i wanted hernanes for this very reason, but we should also bring marrone as depth

Im saying that 352 brings the best of our only creative mf, Pirlo, to change 433 we would have to modify 40% of our squad and the whole 3 year process would be lost

 

[Lion]

but pirlo was successulf in other formations than 3-5-2 so your point is moot