Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (22 Viewers)

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j0ker

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what do you guys think of Giovani dos santos? he has not made it at Barcelona and spurs when he was 18-19 but now at villareal has really stepped up. he is a SS that can play either wings and he is still 24. 10g 7 assist this season.
WTF?

Quaresma, Dos Santos, what's next Krkic?
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Does anyone see us being able to retain Pogba this summer?
I agree with Dule90 tbh. I hoped we could keep both but it looks more and more unlikely. So many rumors with crazy money and also problems with Pogba's contract. With Vidal it was way different he said multiple times he wants to stay and the media never reported any problems with the renewal. Add to it the fat prick Raiola and you get a pretty clear picture of the situation.

On the other hand it's not like our management isn't thinking about the sale. We crashed out early from CL which will have its effect on the transfer budget and Conte still requires reinforcements. Not only that but change of the formation which won't be cheap.

A couple of days ago I had a discussion with a Barca fan at work and he's sure Pogba will go to RM and Vidal to Barca. The Vidal part I laughed him off but the Pogba's situation is nothing but clear.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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This is simply not true. Tevez will move closer to Llorente, Coentrao moves higher up the pitch but Asamoah is still there in a deeper position closer to the left wing in front of Chiellini and near Pirlo. Besides you have 3 defenders right there: Chiellini, Barzagli and Licht because when Coentrao is attacking Licht can't go too much forward.

I think it's exactly the opposite. In the 4231 you need the real wingers because you have just 2 CMs which is not enough. In 433 you have wingers much higher up the pitch which would suit Tevez much more than in 4231. It's not like now Tevez doesn't drop to wings at all. Tevez and Oscar are way too similar to play together and none can play on the wing of 4231.

In 4231 you have no place for Pirlo as well.
Then we disagree about the wingers. But every 433 that was ever effective (that i can recall) worked like that, while there were succesfull assymetric 4231's

But well, like Dule said, a switch to 4312 would make more sense as it accomodates Pirlo, Tevez, Llorente and Oscar in their preferred positions. AND we could also get nani and have him as a backup to Tevez.

IF we'd want, we could play 442 with oscar and nani wide when we cant to hardcounter a team. or 4231. Yeah, oscar isnt a natural winger, but alike asamoah, he has the required abilities. He works very hard, is pretty fast and has amazing technique and ballcontroll. Think of Iniesta playing RW at barcelona, not ideal but it makes the formation work.

So like this, we change to 4312 and have the possibilities to go wingers. When Pirlo decays, it takes 1 good winger to switch to 4231.

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what do you guys think of Giovani dos santos? he has not made it at Barcelona and spurs when he was 18-19 but now at villareal has really stepped up. he is a SS that can play either wings and he is still 24. 10g 7 assist this season.
Cerci suits us more.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Buffon
storari
Litchsteiner Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
caceres ranocchia ogbonna peluso
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
rossi marchisio asamoah
Cerci Llorente Tevez
menez immobile pereyra(or lulic)


According to all rumors :shifty:
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Buffon
storari
Litchsteiner Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
caceres ranocchia ogbonna peluso
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
rossi marchisio asamoah
Cerci Llorente Tevez
menez immobile pereyra(or lulic)


According to all rumors :shifty:
Wich is exactly why you should stop believing what the newspapers are saying

Tevez wont play RW, and we wont change formation if Pogby stays
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Wich is exactly why you should stop believing what the newspapers are saying

Tevez wont play RW, and we wont change formation if Pogby stays
but if you consider what conte used in the 2011-12 season he started with a 433/424/4231 with pepe as a winger and vucinic at lw. wingers is his preferred way of playing and if he gets a winger that is as good or even better than pepe's form that season then he could make a permanent change. even if it means playing tevez in the middle and benching llorente.

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or he could even start using 424 and playing tevez and llorente. I recon he will make us a lot more flexible and we will play games in a mixture of formations including 424,433 and 352. this will make us so unpredictable.
 
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