Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (35 Viewers)
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Now, I wouldn't go full r*tard and claim that Cerci is World Class because he certainly isn't. However, I think that he would improve our starting XI in a 4-3-3 for a number of reasons
First of all, the most logical thing to do is to drop a CB and add in a Winger. So that means bye bye Bonucci. Swapping Bonucci out (Who is sometimes a defensive liability) for a forward who can actually make something positive happen AND we'd finally have 2 men per flank sounds good to me
Secondly, Llorente's scored numerous headers for us already. Despite being lucky if he gets two quality crosses fed to him per game. Cerci is fantastic at crossing and Llorente would benefit from that a LOT.
Also, In Cerci we would finally have a player who's not afraid to run at the opposition, to take his man on and he has the pace to run in behind. Ideally we'd want more than 1 of these players but i'm damn sure that having 1 is better than having none at all.
First of all, the most logical thing to do is to drop a CB and add in a Winger. So that means bye bye Bonucci. Swapping Bonucci out (Who is sometimes a defensive liability) for a forward who can actually make something positive happen AND we'd finally have 2 men per flank sounds good to me
Secondly, Llorente's scored numerous headers for us already. Despite being lucky if he gets two quality crosses fed to him per game. Cerci is fantastic at crossing and Llorente would benefit from that a LOT.
Also, In Cerci we would finally have a player who's not afraid to run at the opposition, to take his man on and he has the pace to run in behind. Ideally we'd want more than 1 of these players but i'm damn sure that having 1 is better than having none at all.
and then thank me?
He can play in both the 3-5-2 and the 4-3-3, would fit into our current system and allow us the flexibility of switching to another formation when needed. Of course there are concerns about wheter he is suited to a possesion based football, but there are always risks, and for for some millions plus Giovinco, Cerci would be great business.
I'm all for leaving our options open. If Marotta can pull off a Tevez-deal for Di Maria or others, I'm all for it. They're obviously better players than Cerci. Just I don't want to get my hopes up, I know Cerci isn't world class, I know he's not a world beater, but some of the slack he gets around here is silly to say the least.
My problem lies on why Cuadrado is undoubtedly a better player than Cerci. Why is he undoubtedly a better player than Cerci, what has he shown that makes him undoubtedly better? A player who has a bit more technical flair and can do step-overs? What good is that if he doesn't have the end-product as compared to Cerci?
My problem lies on why Cuadrado is undoubtedly a better player than Cerci. Why is he undoubtedly a better player than Cerci, what has he shown that makes him undoubtedly better? A player who has a bit more technical flair and can do step-overs? What good is that if he doesn't have the end-product as compared to Cerci?
Where did this myth come from ? Cuadrado indeed has very good end product otherwise i wouldnt be talking about him here cos i myself dont like those players who are great dribblers but lack a brain.
Again Cuadrado has been injured for a while and he hugs the touchline(doesnt cut in like Cerci) which makes him a lesser goal threat.Is it that hard to understand ? So you cant compare the two with stats when both have different set of roles with their respective teams.And FYI,Cerci has 10 goals out of which 5 are pens,so he is not really that much of a goalscorer.It also helps that Cerci has someone like Immobile who has great movement and understanding with him.Whereas Fiorentina's strikers have gone missing for half the season,there's no clear reference point in the box hence the assists column is not showing for him.
Again Cuadrado has been injured for a while and he hugs the touchline(doesnt cut in like Cerci) which makes him a lesser goal threat.Is it that hard to understand ? So you cant compare the two with stats when both have different set of roles with their respective teams.And FYI,Cerci has 10 goals out of which 5 are pens,so he is not really that much of a goalscorer.It also helps that Cerci has someone like Immobile who has great movement and understanding with him.Whereas Fiorentina's strikers have gone missing for half the season,there's no clear reference point in the box hence the assists column is not showing for him.
What do you consider 'end product' to be? Simply a goal or assist, as is often judged, or say, a player who beats his man and delivered a dangerous ball most times?
I like Cuadrado a lot, but I'd say his talent is currently above his level of performance, so we'd be looking to pay top dollar with potential in mind. That's more the sort of move a PL or money team would make, like Lamela, maybe a bit risky for us (even if we completely ignore other factors).
I like Cuadrado a lot, but I'd say his talent is currently above his level of performance, so we'd be looking to pay top dollar with potential in mind. That's more the sort of move a PL or money team would make, like Lamela, maybe a bit risky for us (even if we completely ignore other factors).
There you go.Serie A and Serie B is great but Ligue is terrible
Yeah the latter is more accurate than going by 'assists' considering an assist relied heavily on what the player who 'assist' does
If I make a 3 yards backwards pass to Messi and he goes on to dribble past 4 players and score, I was 'productive'
If I make an incisive 35 yard through ball and Amauri puts it over the bat from 4 yards out, the statistics will say I done nothing.
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That being said, Cerci's also putting in numerous great deliveries and his decision making has been excellent whenever i've watched him.
If I make a 3 yards backwards pass to Messi and he goes on to dribble past 4 players and score, I was 'productive'
If I make an incisive 35 yard through ball and Amauri puts it over the bat from 4 yards out, the statistics will say I done nothing.
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That being said, Cerci's also putting in numerous great deliveries and his decision making has been excellent whenever i've watched him.
I don't think it is clear.
Cuadrado is a more exciting player and he probably has more potential than Cerci, but I don't think ou could say there is much between the two just now.
Cuadrado's role has been relatively comparable to Cerci's for a lot of this season.
He's not playing in a role that is going to get him in goal-scoring positions as much as Cerci, but he has played a lot of his games as a winger (rather than as a wing-back) and he spends less time playing as an orthodox winger than he used to.
He is looking inside a lot of the time.
Ultimately I think the biggest difference between the two of them comes down to Torino being able to play on the counter-attack a lot and Fiorentina being faced with the sort of packed defence Juve play against a lot of the time.
Cuadrado is a more exciting player and he probably has more potential than Cerci, but I don't think ou could say there is much between the two just now.
Cuadrado's role has been relatively comparable to Cerci's for a lot of this season.
He's not playing in a role that is going to get him in goal-scoring positions as much as Cerci, but he has played a lot of his games as a winger (rather than as a wing-back) and he spends less time playing as an orthodox winger than he used to.
He is looking inside a lot of the time.
Ultimately I think the biggest difference between the two of them comes down to Torino being able to play on the counter-attack a lot and Fiorentina being faced with the sort of packed defence Juve play against a lot of the time.
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