A summer mercato comprising the purchases of Cerci and Ranocchia shows absolute lack of ambition, and is utterly disgusting and puke inducing.
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Juventus eye Manchester United star Evra
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I agree with this completely. I can't believe people are not only suggesting that we stick to 3-5-2, but we also keep the SAME starting XI
The major problem we have against quality opposition, is that we have absolutely no pace, no direction and no penetration. None of our players can really take their man on, none of our players can consistently put in a good cross, NONE of our players can pin the opposition back and really get at them.
Look at the Bayern game for example, there's no shame in losing to Bayern. However, we made literally NO clear cut chances. Teams in the Bundesliga and even shitty Eastern European CL teams make chances against Bayern, and look more dangerous than us. Why? Because they have a better system.
In the 3-5-2 we're doomed to make the same exact mistakes time and time again in the CL, where unlike Serie A teams actually take the game to us.
We can't even dominate teams who, on paper are worth about half of Vidal collectively.
We try and play out from the back with 3 CBs, 2 Wing backs and our Deep lying playmaker. We get pressed into making mistakes, even if we manage to play it out successfully from the back we're left trying to put together a quality counter attack with 2 Box 2 box midfielders and 2 strikers who are slow and bad at taking their man on.
All the best teams have players who can run at opponents, take them on and give them something to think about defensively. We have absolutely none of that.
Instead of 2 explosive Wingers making it all happen for us, we're left trying to instigate impossible 1-2's and flick ons with our strike partnership. Or we play the ball out wide to our wing-backs who obviously can't take their man on or find space for a crossing opportunity.
Look at any top CL team now, and they ALL have players who can really get at their opponent and make the difference. We do not.
Because we don't have the players who can take the game to the opposition we end up playing a defensive 5-3-2 and then counter attacking with some of the slowest attackers in Europe I.E LLorente, Matri, Quags, Vucinic even Tevez who's not particularly fast and pretty average at dribbling. Obviously he's not slow, but he doesn't fit the bill for the type of player we're lacking either.
With a front 3 of Lavezzi-Llorente-Cuadrado or even involving Tevez somehow we would be much better equipped to attack teams in Europe or even Serie A.
Our gameplan in the CL is an abomination, and if people think that sticking to a 3-5-2 without even bringing in a World Class attacker is the way forward. Then i'm afraid we'll be moaning about our failures in Europe for a long time to come.
I agree with this completely. I can't believe people are not only suggesting that we stick to 3-5-2, but we also keep the SAME starting XI
The major problem we have against quality opposition, is that we have absolutely no pace, no direction and no penetration. None of our players can really take their man on, none of our players can consistently put in a good cross, NONE of our players can pin the opposition back and really get at them.
Look at the Bayern game for example, there's no shame in losing to Bayern. However, we made literally NO clear cut chances. Teams in the Bundesliga and even shitty Eastern European CL teams make chances against Bayern, and look more dangerous than us. Why? Because they have a better system.
In the 3-5-2 we're doomed to make the same exact mistakes time and time again in the CL, where unlike Serie A teams actually take the game to us.
We can't even dominate teams who, on paper are worth about half of Vidal collectively.
We try and play out from the back with 3 CBs, 2 Wing backs and our Deep lying playmaker. We get pressed into making mistakes, even if we manage to play it out successfully from the back we're left trying to put together a quality counter attack with 2 Box 2 box midfielders and 2 strikers who are slow and bad at taking their man on.
All the best teams have players who can run at opponents, take them on and give them something to think about defensively. We have absolutely none of that.
Instead of 2 explosive Wingers making it all happen for us, we're left trying to instigate impossible 1-2's and flick ons with our strike partnership. Or we play the ball out wide to our wing-backs who obviously can't take their man on or find space for a crossing opportunity.
Look at any top CL team now, and they ALL have players who can really get at their opponent and make the difference. We do not.
Because we don't have the players who can take the game to the opposition we end up playing a defensive 5-3-2 and then counter attacking with some of the slowest attackers in Europe I.E LLorente, Matri, Quags, Vucinic even Tevez who's not particularly fast and pretty average at dribbling. Obviously he's not slow, but he doesn't fit the bill for the type of player we're lacking either.
With a front 3 of Lavezzi-Llorente-Cuadrado or even involving Tevez somehow we would be much better equipped to attack teams in Europe or even Serie A.
Our gameplan in the CL is an abomination, and if people think that sticking to a 3-5-2 without even bringing in a World Class attacker is the way forward. Then i'm afraid we'll be moaning about our failures in Europe for a long time to come.
The major problem we have against quality opposition, is that we have absolutely no pace, no direction and no penetration. None of our players can really take their man on, none of our players can consistently put in a good cross, NONE of our players can pin the opposition back and really get at them.
Look at the Bayern game for example, there's no shame in losing to Bayern. However, we made literally NO clear cut chances. Teams in the Bundesliga and even shitty Eastern European CL teams make chances against Bayern, and look more dangerous than us. Why? Because they have a better system.
In the 3-5-2 we're doomed to make the same exact mistakes time and time again in the CL, where unlike Serie A teams actually take the game to us.
We can't even dominate teams who, on paper are worth about half of Vidal collectively.
We try and play out from the back with 3 CBs, 2 Wing backs and our Deep lying playmaker. We get pressed into making mistakes, even if we manage to play it out successfully from the back we're left trying to put together a quality counter attack with 2 Box 2 box midfielders and 2 strikers who are slow and bad at taking their man on.
All the best teams have players who can run at opponents, take them on and give them something to think about defensively. We have absolutely none of that.
Instead of 2 explosive Wingers making it all happen for us, we're left trying to instigate impossible 1-2's and flick ons with our strike partnership. Or we play the ball out wide to our wing-backs who obviously can't take their man on or find space for a crossing opportunity.
Look at any top CL team now, and they ALL have players who can really get at their opponent and make the difference. We do not.
Because we don't have the players who can take the game to the opposition we end up playing a defensive 5-3-2 and then counter attacking with some of the slowest attackers in Europe I.E LLorente, Matri, Quags, Vucinic even Tevez who's not particularly fast and pretty average at dribbling. Obviously he's not slow, but he doesn't fit the bill for the type of player we're lacking either.
With a front 3 of Lavezzi-Llorente-Cuadrado or even involving Tevez somehow we would be much better equipped to attack teams in Europe or even Serie A.
Our gameplan in the CL is an abomination, and if people think that sticking to a 3-5-2 without even bringing in a World Class attacker is the way forward. Then i'm afraid we'll be moaning about our failures in Europe for a long time to come.
I think Conte wants the ability to switch a 3-5-2 to a 4-3-3 on the fly and vice versa.
We probably won't sign a big star, I actually guarantee it. It's not our lack of ambition, its our financial parameters. (Unless we sell Pogba or Vidal)
We'll sign someone like Cerci who can play in a 3-5-2 and a 4-3-3. We'll then sign our customary squad players and make a few youth investments. (Baselli, Scuffet :xfinger:, Coppolaro, etc.)
I think we'll try to offload Quagliarella, Vucinic, Isla, Motta and De Ceglie. Storari will probably leave as a free agent.
GKs: Buffon, Fiorillo, Rubinho
Defenders: Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Caceres, Ogbonna, Peluso
Midfielders: Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Marchisio, Asamoah, Padoin
Attackers: Tevez, Llorente, Osvaldo, Cerci, Giovinco
Not an increase in quality, we pretty much stay the same, but we have the ability to be more flexible now and we have a player that can play on the RW properly. We've seen Conte use the 4-3-3 in the CL against Real Madrid, I'm sure if we had a proper RW he would even be more enticed to use it in Europe.
We probably won't sign a big star, I actually guarantee it. It's not our lack of ambition, its our financial parameters. (Unless we sell Pogba or Vidal)
We'll sign someone like Cerci who can play in a 3-5-2 and a 4-3-3. We'll then sign our customary squad players and make a few youth investments. (Baselli, Scuffet :xfinger:, Coppolaro, etc.)
I think we'll try to offload Quagliarella, Vucinic, Isla, Motta and De Ceglie. Storari will probably leave as a free agent.
GKs: Buffon, Fiorillo, Rubinho
Defenders: Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Caceres, Ogbonna, Peluso
Midfielders: Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Marchisio, Asamoah, Padoin
Attackers: Tevez, Llorente, Osvaldo, Cerci, Giovinco
Not an increase in quality, we pretty much stay the same, but we have the ability to be more flexible now and we have a player that can play on the RW properly. We've seen Conte use the 4-3-3 in the CL against Real Madrid, I'm sure if we had a proper RW he would even be more enticed to use it in Europe.
So we hit the crossbar one time and had a shot from a free kick. Excellent
Meanwhile *Insert awful pot 4 team here* troubled Bayern more than we ever could, because they weren't playing counter attacking football with players who can barely jog nevermind bomb down the pitch, and relied on link up play between two strikers who can barely control a ball I.E Matri-Quags.
Meanwhile *Insert awful pot 4 team here* troubled Bayern more than we ever could, because they weren't playing counter attacking football with players who can barely jog nevermind bomb down the pitch, and relied on link up play between two strikers who can barely control a ball I.E Matri-Quags.
I am fucking tired of 352. good for serie A against teams like chievo but absolutely poor against teams like copehagen. if we stick to 352 in Europa league watch that Turkish team make millions of chances against us. I mean even a 433 of hellas Verona looked superb against us and that's why we drew against them. roma on the other case destroy those shitty teams 3-0 or 4-0. the only reason why we are top of serie a is because of conte and how much he is getting out of each player using this 352. if conte had the players for 433 or 424 he would rape any bottom side like hellas 3,4,5 or even 6 goals to nil.
this is what I expct from marotta:
in: berardi, menez, nani(or cuadrado), gabbiadini, rodriguez(or convert asamoah to LB), marrone
out: giovinco, quags, vucinic, isla, pepe
this is perfect. even if we line-up our sub team it would be able to destroy any bottom serie a table which is what we need for a champions league campaign. this is similar to what Bayern had during their treble winning campaign.
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Copenhagen looked dangeroud against us buy looked like peanuts against real Madrid. only because real has wingers
this is what I expct from marotta:
in: berardi, menez, nani(or cuadrado), gabbiadini, rodriguez(or convert asamoah to LB), marrone
out: giovinco, quags, vucinic, isla, pepe
Buffon
storari
Litchsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Rodriguez
caceres bonucci ogbonna peluso
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
marchisio marrone asamoah
Nani Llorente Tevez
berardi gabbiadini menez
storari
Litchsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Rodriguez
caceres bonucci ogbonna peluso
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
marchisio marrone asamoah
Nani Llorente Tevez
berardi gabbiadini menez
this is perfect. even if we line-up our sub team it would be able to destroy any bottom serie a table which is what we need for a champions league campaign. this is similar to what Bayern had during their treble winning campaign.
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Copenhagen looked dangeroud against us buy looked like peanuts against real Madrid. only because real has wingers
I agree with this completely. I can't believe people are not only suggesting that we stick to 3-5-2, but we also keep the SAME starting XI
The major problem we have against quality opposition, is that we have absolutely no pace, no direction and no penetration. None of our players can really take their man on, none of our players can consistently put in a good cross, NONE of our players can pin the opposition back and really get at them.
Look at the Bayern game for example, there's no shame in losing to Bayern. However, we made literally NO clear cut chances. Teams in the Bundesliga and even shitty Eastern European CL teams make chances against Bayern, and look more dangerous than us. Why? Because they have a better system.
In the 3-5-2 we're doomed to make the same exact mistakes time and time again in the CL, where unlike Serie A teams actually take the game to us.
We can't even dominate teams who, on paper are worth about half of Vidal collectively.
We try and play out from the back with 3 CBs, 2 Wing backs and our Deep lying playmaker. We get pressed into making mistakes, even if we manage to play it out successfully from the back we're left trying to put together a quality counter attack with 2 Box 2 box midfielders and 2 strikers who are slow and bad at taking their man on.
All the best teams have players who can run at opponents, take them on and give them something to think about defensively. We have absolutely none of that.
Instead of 2 explosive Wingers making it all happen for us, we're left trying to instigate impossible 1-2's and flick ons with our strike partnership. Or we play the ball out wide to our wing-backs who obviously can't take their man on or find space for a crossing opportunity.
Look at any top CL team now, and they ALL have players who can really get at their opponent and make the difference. We do not.
Because we don't have the players who can take the game to the opposition we end up playing a defensive 5-3-2 and then counter attacking with some of the slowest attackers in Europe I.E LLorente, Matri, Quags, Vucinic even Tevez who's not particularly fast and pretty average at dribbling. Obviously he's not slow, but he doesn't fit the bill for the type of player we're lacking either.
With a front 3 of Lavezzi-Llorente-Cuadrado or even involving Tevez somehow we would be much better equipped to attack teams in Europe or even Serie A.
Our gameplan in the CL is an abomination, and if people think that sticking to a 3-5-2 without even bringing in a World Class attacker is the way forward. Then i'm afraid we'll be moaning about our failures in Europe for a long time to come.
The major problem we have against quality opposition, is that we have absolutely no pace, no direction and no penetration. None of our players can really take their man on, none of our players can consistently put in a good cross, NONE of our players can pin the opposition back and really get at them.
Look at the Bayern game for example, there's no shame in losing to Bayern. However, we made literally NO clear cut chances. Teams in the Bundesliga and even shitty Eastern European CL teams make chances against Bayern, and look more dangerous than us. Why? Because they have a better system.
In the 3-5-2 we're doomed to make the same exact mistakes time and time again in the CL, where unlike Serie A teams actually take the game to us.
We can't even dominate teams who, on paper are worth about half of Vidal collectively.
We try and play out from the back with 3 CBs, 2 Wing backs and our Deep lying playmaker. We get pressed into making mistakes, even if we manage to play it out successfully from the back we're left trying to put together a quality counter attack with 2 Box 2 box midfielders and 2 strikers who are slow and bad at taking their man on.
All the best teams have players who can run at opponents, take them on and give them something to think about defensively. We have absolutely none of that.
Instead of 2 explosive Wingers making it all happen for us, we're left trying to instigate impossible 1-2's and flick ons with our strike partnership. Or we play the ball out wide to our wing-backs who obviously can't take their man on or find space for a crossing opportunity.
Look at any top CL team now, and they ALL have players who can really get at their opponent and make the difference. We do not.
Because we don't have the players who can take the game to the opposition we end up playing a defensive 5-3-2 and then counter attacking with some of the slowest attackers in Europe I.E LLorente, Matri, Quags, Vucinic even Tevez who's not particularly fast and pretty average at dribbling. Obviously he's not slow, but he doesn't fit the bill for the type of player we're lacking either.
With a front 3 of Lavezzi-Llorente-Cuadrado or even involving Tevez somehow we would be much better equipped to attack teams in Europe or even Serie A.
Our gameplan in the CL is an abomination, and if people think that sticking to a 3-5-2 without even bringing in a World Class attacker is the way forward. Then i'm afraid we'll be moaning about our failures in Europe for a long time to come.
Only that I doubt we"ll bench Tevez or Llorente.
I think Conte might use Carlito on the left.And go after RW(Nani/Cerci/Cuadrado),Berardi as back up and maybe Menez as back up as well.
Osvaldo and Gabbiadini Llorente back ups.
What you think?
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