Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (30 Viewers)

[Joe]

Higuain , Jovetic, Diamanti, Bonaventura, Berardi, and Bonera/Van Buyten/Free CB.
~50-55M + a couple players.

Orgasms. Orgasms everywhere.

We'll need a backup CB forsure. We shouldn't enter 3 competitions without a proper CB backup.

Barzagli - Bonucci - Chiellini
Caceres - Bonera* - Peluso

Higuain and Jovetic are self-explanatory.

Diamanti. Will be a great depth signing. He could rest any of our midfielders.

Berardi and Bonaventura for the future.

 

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[Emmet]

You're not wrong at all. Players change positions successfully all the time. Is this a new concept to forum members here? Pirlo only became a regista after Ancelotti arrived at meelan.

Actually he became a regista at Brescia with Mazzone in 00/01

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I think Diamonkey is an awful short-term signing regardless of where he plays. Just another signing based on nationality and nothing else. It's no different than someone getting a government job and hiring friends and family. Diamonkey isn't Verratti or Ogbonna or someone else who has loads of skill and investment potential. So this is shameful and pathetic, and good enough reason to want Marotta out of here.

and hes not so bad, would rather have him than a lot of the subs we currently have

 

[Zacheryah]

and we won our first cl with a 3 times ballon d'or winner in addition with another similar class player (platini and boniek, in case someone don't get it)

and then we advanced to 3 more cl finals with a potential ballon d'or (97 del piero), and 2 more ballon d'or winners (zidane and nedved)

we never had flair, yeah right.

core of the team and the playstyle didnt deviate much. We allwats had 2 special players.

nedved; excellent example; works harder then most cdm's.
camo, hard worker..
zidane, not to shabby

platini's juve : 3 creative, and then a bunch of very defensive talents

I think Diamonkey is an awful short-term signing regardless of where he plays. Just another signing based on nationality and nothing else. It's no different than someone getting a government job and hiring friends and family. Diamonkey isn't Verratti or Ogbonna or someone else who has loads of skill and investment potential. So this is shameful and pathetic, and good enough reason to want Marotta out of here.

this post is good enough reason to want you out of here.

and the lack of tactical knowledge to understand why diamanti is good for us + the financial aspect is a second one

 

[Catenaccio]

Lets see here:

If we assume that Juve acquires just Higuain and Diamanti (with Llorente joining), Higuain and Llorente would both be on around EU4m each on a net basis (4m for Llorente and 4.5m for Higuain) = EU17m in Gross wage cost. Add Diamanti and he would be on something like EU2m a year or EU4m gross. Total wage cost increase of EU21m

Iaquinta will be let go (was costing us EU5.6m in gross cost), say Quags goes (EU3.6m in gross), and Bendtner (EU3.5m in gross). We save around EU13m in wages.

So net increase in wages is EU8m. That is 6% increase in overall wages. More than doable.

In terms of fees? Higuain 25m and Diamanti 7m? Total of 32m. Quags sale is maybe 8m? Quags and Diamanti net eachother out. Higuain's 25m fee would be amortized over 5 years - so annual accounting charge is 5m

All doable.

Next level would be to buy Jovetic and offer Vucinic in exchange. Could probably offer Vucinic +15m to do the deal. Wage impact would be minimal in that Jovetic would not get paid that much more than Vucinic and given Jovetic's age, we could sign him on a 5 year deal and amortize that over 5 years.

So what I am saying is a set of attacking players consisting of: Jovetic, Higuain, Llorente, Jovetic, Diamanti, Matri and Giovinco is doable for an additional wage cost of 6% at the group level. Even less if we decided to dispose of Matri and bring in a young prospect like Boakye. We could also garber 7-8m in transfer fees from Matri if we find an interesting bidder.

 

[petersmit]

looks good... though we first have to find someone who wants Quag for 8M..

and our wages already increased (vidal and pogba i believe)

let's see if that fits the picture

 

[ALC]

People on this forum hate players who are out of position. They'd rather have Armero or Kolarov at LWB instead of Asamoah just because they're "natural wing backs", meanwhile Asamoah is twice the player of either.

Does anyone remember Schweinsteiger the winger?

Bad example. Schweini is world class and players like him can play anywhere. That's like saying "Iniesta the winger" or "Fabregas the false 9". They can play anywhere near the pitch and will still manage to shine.


And Diamanti would be a shit buy as I already said. When you already have depth, you don't add to it by using the same quality players. You raise it. Do you see any other top teams buy just above average players nearing the age of retirement? No, they buy players who can actually prove they deserve to start. You have to keep making significant upgrades at a certain point and that's not what Diamanti is.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I think Diamonkey is an awful short-term signing regardless of where he plays. Just another signing based on nationality and nothing else. It's no different than someone getting a government job and hiring friends and family. Diamonkey isn't Verratti or Ogbonna or someone else who has loads of skill and investment potential. So this is shameful and pathetic, and good enough reason to want Marotta out of here.

Is it also good enough reason to want Conte out of here? Considering he seems to be the one asking for him, if you were to believe the rumours.

 

[petersmit]

please people stop talking about Bonera... just bring back Sorensen ffs! way better and is our future CB for sure... he already played for us and for Bologna in the Serie A...

 

[Buck Fuddy]

please people stop talking about Bonera... just bring back Sorensen ffs! way better and is our future CB for sure... he already played for us and for Bologna in the Serie A...

The only thing that's for sure, is that there's about a 5% chance of ever seeing him at Juve again.

 

[ZoSo]

And all of a sudden you add iq wages on the sale side.... As If llorente and Co will play for free...

I better stay away from this thread, i Srsly hate those "realistic" lineups

I say it counts as a 'fee' considering he wasn't being used at all. Don't forget we are also paying wages for Anelka and Bendtner too.

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People on this forum hate players who are out of position. They'd rather have Armero or Kolarov at LWB instead of Asamoah just because they're "natural wing backs", meanwhile Asamoah is twice the player of either.

Does anyone remember Schweinsteiger the winger?

Kolarov is a far better attacking option than Asamoah.

 

[petersmit]

The only thing that's for sure, is that there's about a 5% chance of ever seeing him at Juve again.

if we buy the other half this summer he'll become our future CB, is what i meant... he already has his Serie A experience and IMO he'll be perfect to rotate with barzagli next year

 

[napoleonic]

core of the team and the playstyle didnt deviate much. We allwats had 2 special players.

nedved; excellent example; works harder then most cdm's.
camo, hard worker..
zidane, not to shabby

platini's juve : 3 creative, and then a bunch of very defensive talents

camo had more flair than giovinco-vucinic-marchisio combined.

pirlo has gone downhill and his play style frankly doesn't help the team much in attack, vucinic also has gone downhill, at the start of the next season the team will have no flair and the truth is this last few games the team already shown they were not capable of winning matches without some lucks and penalties, that is worrying.

ideally we need 3 new players that have 'wc flair' next season, but as we are beggars, at least give us one ffs.

 

[ZoSo]

pirlo has gone downhill and his play style frankly doesn't help the team much in attack

dat asian cronios knock-off

 

[Nzoric]

Kolarov is a far better attacking option than Asamoah.

5 goals 12 assists for asa, in his first ever season playing that position. :yao:

 

[ZoSo]

Kolarov is more dynamic.

 

[mukumsplau]

looks good... though we first have to find someone who wants Quag for 8M..

and our wages already increased (vidal and pogba i believe)

let's see if that fits the picture

shouldnt be hard to find a club for quag..werent some german and russian clubs asking about him the other day?...problem is if he wants to go...i say for players who are stubborn about leaving...let ventrone handle them...theyll hand in transfer requests in the morning..

 

[Nzoric]

Kolarov is more dynamic.

And a huge defensive liability. I pity Chiellini because hes going to play vs several attackers on his own if Kolarov comes.

 

[Xperd]

The kolarov train has passed.he just sucks defensively and sometimes offensively.i doubt ppl wanting him hav watched him play in the past couple of seasons.
Asa > kolarov.period.
Plus he's almost 30.

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The kolarov train has passed.he just sucks defensively and sometimes offensively too.i doubt ppl wanting him hav watched him play in the past couple of seasons.
Asa > kolarov.period.
Plus he's almost 30.

 

[ZoSo]

And a huge defensive liability. I pity Chiellini because hes going to play vs several attackers on his own if Kolarov comes.

Coentrao or Lulic then.