Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2012-13) (29 Viewers)

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Apr 29, 2006
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If he could give us 3 years at a high level, that woul be beyond anyone expectations.
And that is exactly why we mustn't hesitate if 20m+ offer arrives.

Llorente + Jovetic/Matri + Giovinco is all right. Vucinic is better than Matri and Giovinco in many ways, but not enough to be a better long/mid term investment.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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I know, but that is not the point
but point is that vuci has max 3 years at his level ahead
i don't agree with this, in Italy the diet and training methods prolongs a players career more so than most other leagues, look at players like Del Piero, Totti, Baggio, even Hubner they play(ed) into their mid to late 30s at this level to decent effect at least. It's not like Vucinic was ever blessed with great pace but his technical qualities will carry him through his 30s if he decides to play still and he remains relatively injury free.
 

Bezzy

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i don't agree with this, in Italy the diet and training methods prolongs a players career more so than most other leagues, look at players like Del Piero, Totti, Baggio, even Hubner they play(ed) into their mid to late 30s at this level to decent effect at least. It's not like Vucinic was ever blessed with great pace but his technical qualities will carry him through his 30s if he decides to play still and he remains relatively injury free.
football is changingalso juve plays is more about pace
this will even been more in the future beside that isn't vucinic not the same level as del piero and totti
 

Robee

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Seba ain't bad, he's faster than Vucinic but he's nowhere near as classy when both are on form.

If we upgrade we shouldn't sell our best striker. That's not even worth considering except for an insane amount of money.. For me that's more than 20 mil and no one will offer that much money. No one.

Dzeko on the other hand would be a nice acquisition but at his age he'll cost around 25m quickly.
 

Badass J Elkann

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football is changingalso juve plays is more about pace
this will even been more in the future beside that isn't vucinic not the same level as del piero and totti
so? since when did that stop the likes of Pirlo from being great in todays football? is he blessed with pace? so what if Vucinic is not on the same level as Del Piero and Totti that is not my point, was Dario Hubner as well he was scoring double figures when he was nearly 40 hell what about Di Natale? yes fortunately for him he has pace as well as good technical abilities at his age but he is in his mid 30s and still scoring for fun.

what im saying is the typically mediteranean diet in Italy is a testamony to players still continuing to play at a high level well into their 30s and im sure if Vucinic wanted to he could do too and because his game has relied on his technical ability rather than his pace (lack of it) he could last longer than the 3 years you predicted.

Juve's style has nothing to do with pace, it is about energy and balance, if it was all about pace Pirlo would be on the bench, and Quagliarella or Matri would start every game along with Giovinco, and would never have bothered looking into the likes of Bendtner and Borriello or had even bought padoin.
 

Bezzy

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del piero amd pirlo are technical way better then vucinic don't say he is bad
but he is replaceable in fact we already playing his subsitute
giovinco
so if we next summer get a big offer 20m+ we should do it

i am talking about future, football will be faster and faster so players need to depend more on physics or pace.

once again i don't say Vuci is Shit or will be Shit but i won't refuse a 23m offer on him
the same amount offer on vidal or marchi I would refuse
 

Badass J Elkann

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Dude, it has nothing to do with any stupid diet... It's just that Serie A is a slower league compared to the others...
players like Javier Zanetti have a better fitness at his age than most if not all players in his age bracket in any other league, actually i recon he has better fitness than most of the current England international team for example what is that down to? this whole Serie A is a slower league is such a crap statement when im talking about the players longetivity in Italy is far superior than other if not most other leagues
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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del piero amd pirlo are technical way better then vucinic don't say he is bad
but he is replaceable in fact we already playing his subsitute
giovinco
so if we next summer get a big offer 20m+ we should do it

i am talking about future, football will be faster and faster so players need to depend more on physics or pace.

once again i don't say Vuci is Shit or will be Shit but i won't refuse a 23m offer on him
the same amount offer on vidal or marchi I would refuse
stop putting words into my mouth, i never said vucinic is bad or shit i'm simply stating that he has the technical capabilities to carry him for longer than 3 years as you put it for the reasons i've stated above.

and again read what i said about players like Javier Zanetti who at his age has incredible fitness levels, the game in the future may be about pace but being able to run for longer is more vital and that is where my argument of the typical mediteranean diet comes into play in comparison to say a British diet. This is no lie but when players like lescott gets doughnuts smuggled into the england training camp in shoe boxes and how Capello banned chips from the players diets that gives you an idea.
 
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