Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (24 Viewers)

[Cheesio]

Reading Mamotta Interview, i thought he's eithr very dumb or we already secured the signing of Aguero, cause in no case he sould've talked to the public about us spending half of our budget on one player.
iI guess he's tryin to reassure the fans that will get a top player but imagine now if we don't get Aguero and Sanchez is off to barca
Rossi signing is inevitable by then .

 

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[JCK]

they dont want tiago neither, and prob same with sissoko

And let's say they accept other players there still remains that if the other players want to go there. Player exchange in deals is most probably bound to fail.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

I have a bad feeling about this transfer season. I see us getting another free signing,maybe a 17m bastos and vucinic and try to develop of pepe and motta for the mother fucking good of Italy national team :groan:

 

[Flamez]

“If someone poaches Aguero from us then it will only be because of an economical offer that we are in no position to match.”

Dzekooo, here we go again! That's it Marotta, spend big, but don't spend too much big! Just don't be surprised if you are going to get the Amauri of your saga as SD instead of a really big name and in the final you end up sacked. For fuck sake, if we didn't spend on Motta and Pepe we could be using their money on Aguero.

But well, at least he's sending us a signal that he has already somekind of an agreement with the player. Just misses the demands of Atletico.

 

[JuveJay]

Yes and no.

Yes, what you say is absolutely correct.
No, sometimes the flaws and the qualities can be seen no matter how the team plays. Bonucci's reactions when one on one with an opponent had less to do with how we played and more to do with a flaw in his defensive game. By "one on one" I mean the situations when the ball was on the ground and an opponent was running with the ball towards Bonucci. Bonucci was either skinned or made a yellow card foul. And that happened in 10/10 such situations.

10/10 is too high, I can think of the Fiorentina game off the top of my head where he took the ball cleanly. Also, in a stronger unit he won't be isolated so many times, I've seen lauded defenders struggle when this is the case. So the initial point is more relevant, even if Bonucci needs to work on his body positioning.

 

[Kidtaf]

“If someone poaches Aguero from us then it will only be because of an economical offer that we are in no position to match.”

Dzekooo, here we go again! That's it Marotta, spend big, but don't spend too much big! Just don't be surprised if you are going to get the Amauri of your saga as SD instead of a really big name and in the final you end up sacked. For fuck sake, if we didn't spend on Motta and Pepe we could be using their money on Aguero.

But well, at least he's sending us a signal that he has already somekind of an agreement with the player. Just misses the demands of Atletico.

I took that part as "if another team offers more money to Aguero that we cannot match, then we will lose him"

I think the negotiating with athletico will be easier than that of Aguero

 

[Alen]

“If someone poaches Aguero from us then it will only be because of an economical offer that we are in no position to match.”

Dzekooo, here we go again! That's it Marotta, spend big, but don't spend too much big! Just don't be surprised if you are going to get the Amauri of your saga as SD instead of a really big name and in the final you end up sacked. For fuck sake, if we didn't spend on Motta and Pepe we could be using their money on Aguero.

But well, at least he's sending us a signal that he has already somekind of an agreement with the player. Just misses the demands of Atletico.

Imo Marotta was talking about the wages. Actually, he clearly said it with this: "“Aguero, for example, benefits from tax breaks in Spain with Atletico Madrid that he wouldn’t get in Italy. "

If he's paid 10 million euro wages by Real, he will get 8 of them for himself and only 2m will go for taxes. If he's paid 10m eur by Juve then only 5.8m will be for Aguero while the rest is for taxes. Both Juve and Real will pay the same, but Aguero would get 2.2m eur more per year. Add the appeal Real has over Juve and it's easy to conclude where will he go.

 

[Orgut]

Difficult to judge individuals with a collectively bad team. Unless they are absolutely terrible, which Bonucci wasn't.

As for Aguero I think Tacchinardi is the only one to say he is not a top player
Its one thing to say he won`t fit or won`t be a success than saying he is not a top player

As for Bonucci I think he is not good enough I haven`t seen anything that made me think he is just sharing the bad season with everyone

Chiellini didnt have the best of seasons too but I`d still say he is one of the best CB in the world
I`m not comparing Bonucci to Chiellini as its obvious he is nowhere near his level but wouldn`t it be nice to have someone who you could at least wonder if he ever get to his level
Right now I dont think Bonucci is any better than Barzagli

 

[Flamez]

Imo Marotta was talking about the wages. Actually, he clearly said it with this: "“Aguero, for example, benefits from tax breaks in Spain with Atletico Madrid that he wouldn’t get in Italy. "

If he's paid 10 million euro wages by Real, he will get 8 of them for himself and only 2m will go for taxes. If he's paid 10m eur by Juve then only 5.8m will be for Aguero while the rest is for taxes. Both Juve and Real will pay the same, but Aguero would get 2.2m eur more per year. Add the appeal Real has over Juve and it's easy to conclude where will he go.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Joe]

I heard Sissoko is close to being gone!

35M + Sissoko + ? for Aguero?

 

[JuveJay]

As for Aguero I think Tacchinardi is the only one to say he is not a top player
Its one thing to say he won`t fit or won`t be a success than saying he is not a top player

As for Bonucci I think he is not good enough I haven`t seen anything that made me think he is just sharing the bad season with everyone

Chiellini didnt have the best of seasons too but I`d still say he is one of the best CB in the world
I`m not comparing Bonucci to Chiellini as its obvious he is nowhere near his level but wouldn`t it be nice to have someone who you could at least wonder if he ever get to his level
Right now I dont think Bonucci is any better than Barzagli

Probably not right now although he came off the back of one Serie A season, at least he has some scope to improve, unlike Barzagli.

I never feel particularly secure with Bonucci, and the Juventus defense is a very tough position to earn your stripes, but I wouldn't cast a young player away after one season. However if we could get a slightly more experienced high level defender in it would be more suitable. Guys like Rinaudo were ultimately useless, you need players who you can rely on over the season.

 

[Bjerknes]

Tacchinardi is certainly entitled to his opinion, but he should realize that he played Aguero when Kun was a teenager. He's no Messi or Ronaldo, so of course it'll be difficult to be a "game-changer" as a teen. Moreover, Tacchinardi has not been in the dressing room with the guy (as far as we know), so I'm not sure what he meant by that.

Above all, it could have simply been a warning not to blow the entire budget on Aguero, which is a fair assertion.

 

[Albo]

But Aguero wants us

No he doesn't !

Gazzetta: Marotta & Paratici will fly out to Madrid next week and present €35 mln offer for Aguero, if Atletico think it's not enough, there will be two players involved in the deal.

€35 mln + two players will most likely be our last offer.

I hope this is true if they don't accpet this offer tell them to fu*k off .

Welcome Honda instead of Rossi

Are you kidding ??

 

[Nicholas]

Bronzetti:

Aguero to Juventus will happen soon.

 

[Cheesio]

 

[Albo]

Please don't fap

I just have read -> Real wants both Neymar & Aguero if this is true we have 0 chance for him , also Chelsea & Man Shitty interested .
This is like Dzeko saga .

 

[Nicholas]

Bronzetti said Real do not want Neymar and Aguero. He is very close to Perez also.

 

[Bezzy]

chelsea will probably buy pastore
shitty goes for nasri
I truly see only real and inter(if they sell eto'o or sneijdork) as a concurrent for him

 

[Joe]

Imo Marotta was talking about the wages. Actually, he clearly said it with this: "“Aguero, for example, benefits from tax breaks in Spain with Atletico Madrid that he wouldn’t get in Italy. "

If he's paid 10 million euro wages by Real, he will get 8 of them for himself and only 2m will go for taxes. If he's paid 10m eur by Juve then only 5.8m will be for Aguero while the rest is for taxes. Both Juve and Real will pay the same, but Aguero would get 2.2m eur more per year. Add the appeal Real has over Juve and it's easy to conclude where will he go.

Wow for real? That big of a margin?

We're officially fucked.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

There you go fellas

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