Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (47 Viewers)
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Is ultra violence a part of it ?
discovery channel has this series where they send a journalist (the guy's an idiot tho) to meet with the big ultra's in the world.
seen most episodes so far, and i was quite shocked when i saw the situation there.
however, they showed just some material of big acts of violence and 1 game that had to be shut down, nothing about the ranking tho.
but hearing this now, it wouldnt surprise me that it had something to do with it, and thats a shame.
discovery channel has this series where they send a journalist (the guy's an idiot tho) to meet with the big ultra's in the world.
seen most episodes so far, and i was quite shocked when i saw the situation there.
however, they showed just some material of big acts of violence and 1 game that had to be shut down, nothing about the ranking tho.
but hearing this now, it wouldnt surprise me that it had something to do with it, and thats a shame.
what is that if not the textbook definition of bad management.
with the fan base, marketing appeal and tradition these two clubs have, only inept management can lead them to the point where they have financial troubles ... this leads to having to sell you most promising players over and over again, in great numbers, since, according to "club management for dummies", that is the most obvious way of sustaining a club. From there on, it's an avalanche effect ... everything starts with bad management, though.
Similar was, and is the case, with a number of Brazilian clubs but teams like Santos and Sao Paolo are starting to lead the way out of it.
with the fan base, marketing appeal and tradition these two clubs have, only inept management can lead them to the point where they have financial troubles ... this leads to having to sell you most promising players over and over again, in great numbers, since, according to "club management for dummies", that is the most obvious way of sustaining a club. From there on, it's an avalanche effect ... everything starts with bad management, though.
Similar was, and is the case, with a number of Brazilian clubs but teams like Santos and Sao Paolo are starting to lead the way out of it.
comparing argie teams to brazilian ones shows you really dont know the condition you cant even compare em to mexican ones, do you know how much boca's left back gets paid? i think you re trying to talk about a subject you're not familiar with by speaking in platitudes, everything starts at the beginning kinda deal. Management sucks at real you dont see them going down. comparing argie teams to brazilian ones shows you really dont know the condition you cant even compare em to mexican ones, do you know how much boca's left back gets paid? i think you re trying to talk about a subject you're not familiar with by speaking in platitudes, everything starts at the beginning kinda deal. Management sucks at real you dont see them going down.
madrid should have been excluded in europe and la liga for years because of their record debts back around 1999, but everyone closed their eyes and let them continue.
also, the major of madrid kinda saved them by buying their training complex for multiple times the value
really, madrid is like the worst example to take
comparing argie teams to brazilian ones shows you really dont know the condition you cant even compare em to mexican ones, do you know how much boca's left back gets paid? i think you re trying to talk about a subject you're not familiar with by speaking in platitudes, everything starts at the beginning kinda deal. Management sucks at real you dont see them going down.
alright, I will leave it to those, who know what they are talking about - you, that is - in the mean time, however, it's probably useful asking yourself the question how come other Argie teams are doing better than River and Boca, while being part of the same league and economy, and also how come Boca's left back is being paid so little, what do you think is the reason for Boca or River not being able to pay their players better salaries... is really a club not being financially stable completely disjoint from the issue of bad management?
Don't really have anything else to say on the matter
i mean that real madrid is a bad example because they should have collapsed like lazio did, if they were threated the same
they however didnt got threated at all, and bailed out by the major.
and that same madrid management, ended its own world dommination by selling their only DM (makelele, at that time the best in the world), and getting beckham, while having figo, with none of the two able to play on the left, and zidane forced in a deeper midfield role.
really, madrid has like the worst management ever, mourinho will fix it tho
they however didnt got threated at all, and bailed out by the major.
and that same madrid management, ended its own world dommination by selling their only DM (makelele, at that time the best in the world), and getting beckham, while having figo, with none of the two able to play on the left, and zidane forced in a deeper midfield role.
really, madrid has like the worst management ever, mourinho will fix it tho
alright, I will leave it to those, who know what they are talking about - you, that is - in the mean time, however, it's probably useful asking yourself the question how come other Argie teams are doing better than River and Boca, while being part of the same league and economy, and also how come Boca's left back is being paid so little, what do you think is the reason for Boca or River not being able to pay him better ... is really a club not being financially stable completely disjoint from the issue of bad management?
Don't really have anything else to say on the matter
i dont have to ask myself anything, i watch and have been watching this league and know exactly what goes on, river and boca are the biggest team in argentina and as so are subject to more pressure, not to menation that their barras are the biggest too, and barras are government sanctioned thugs that management can do nothing about, once again you picked the wrong subject/guy to run into today
i dont have to ask myself anything, i watch and have been watching this league and know exactly what goes on, river and boca are the biggest team in argentina and as so are subject to more pressure, not to menation that their barras are the biggest too, and barras are government sanctioned thugs that management can do nothing about, once again you picked the wrong subject/guy to run into today
Look, Deneb, there are discussions that one feels, when lead in a civil and respectful way, may lead to somewhere and that there is a point having them ... there are others, however, where one feels he would be better off discussing with the walls surrounding them, and I am afraid this is one of those.
Take care
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