Winter Mercato Thread 2018 (29 Viewers)

[MikeM]

Dybala
(Mandzukic)
Carrasco-Can-Bernardeschi-Costa
(Pjaca)-(Matuidi)-(Pellegrini)-(Cuadrado)
Pjanic
(Bentancur)​

Higuain in China

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[Cerval]

Pellegri won't go to Juve therefore we can 100% assume he's going to be a Macheda

 

[DAiDEViL]

Dybala
(Mandzukic)
Carrasco-Can-Bernardeschi-Costa
(Pjaca)-(Matuidi)-(Pellegrini)-(Cuadrado)
Pjanic
(Bentancur)​

Higuain in China

You'd start Can over Matuidi?

 

[MikeM]

You'd start Can over Matuidi?

I think he'd only come here to start lol.

But he has way more talent and potential even though Matuidi is still good.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I think he'd only come here to start lol.

But he has way more talent and potential even though Matuidi is still good.

He can start at RCM

 

[zizinho]

Then he'd sit on the bench like Pjaca. We are stacked up front.

I am Glad we missed out on him. €25m to spend on someone else. looking at italian "talents" only Verratti has turned out to be a Verratti.

Pjaca was injured like half his time here, you know his playing time would have increased steadily had he been inthe training process continuosly. unlucky, but expect him to play more once hes back from Germany.

also, we are hardly stacked. Higuain is currently our only CF to Max, and hes 30, out of shape, and declining rapidly (i thought Kean would be his backup this season but we loaned him out last minute), Pellegri looked like the ideal successor age and talent wise. i know we have Kean, but we like to keep our options with these youngsters, as you cant ber sure the more talented one will be more successful always (fitness, mentality, iq, etc)

and yes, not everyone is a Verratti, if we had 11 Verrattis then wed be european champions (maybe not, Conte and knokouts), and Gigi would play his last WC in Russia, as favorites to win it. but im very happy with the recent talentpool of italians, looks to contain lots of gems

 

[MikeM]

He can start at RCM

Not in my Guardiola formation. #10 plays RCM.

 

[zizinho]

Dybala
(Mandzukic)
Carrasco-Can-Bernardeschi-Costa
(Pjaca)-(Matuidi)-(Pellegrini)-(Cuadrado)
Pjanic
(Bentancur)​

Higuain in China

 

[DAiDEViL]

Not in my Guardiola formation. #10 plays RCM.

Was only about seconds away from posting a Pep gif.

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[MikeM]

Guardiola as Allegri's assistant.

 

[zizinho]

Guardiola as Allegri's assistant.

id rather Klopp. his plan A is not a bad plan B

 

[DAiDEViL]

id rather Klopp. his plan A is not a bad plan B

 

[Fr3sh]

Dybala
(Mandzukic)
Carrasco-Can-Bernardeschi-Costa
(Pjaca)-(Matuidi)-(Pellegrini)-(Cuadrado)
Pjanic
(Bentancur)​

Higuain in China

 

[Post Ironic]

what people bring up here about Pellegri, the 25M transfer fee, is wrong if you dont look at the other side of the medal. 25M is pocket change, Pellegri will still be worth that much if he was doing nothing for 2 years, let alone if he has a breakout year early (before age 20). lets face it, we missed out on a golden opportunity

No we didn't. Tell me all the 16 year olds being sold for 25mil+ bonuses? It's too young to have any idea how he will turn out. He's reached an imposing physical size at a young age. Scored a couple goals for Genoa, none of them particularly impressive goals, one of them a total fluke with multiple deflections. He didn't score at a prolific rate in Genoa primavera or u-17s, and he scored 2 goals in 24 total appearances for Italy U-17 and U-16. 1 goal in 13 for u-17, 1 goal in 11 for u-16.

If we are spending 25 mil on a 16 year old I'd like to see one that has had at least a history of success in the youth levels.

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Pellegri won't go to Juve therefore we can 100% assume he's going to be a Macheda

No. We can assume he's basically a complete unknown. And 25 mil is not pocket change for Juve to throw at a 16 year old. No big clubs are signing 16 year olds for this kind of money.

 

[MikeM]

Monaco is buying Pellegri as an investment. 25M now. In 2 years when he scores a few goals in the French league he'll be worth 50M. But we don't have the luxury of pumping up his stats and playing time for the main purposes of making a profit.

Monaco does.

 

[Juvellino]

Monaco is buying Pellegri as an investment. 25M now. In 2 years when he scores a few goals in the French league he'll be worth 50M. But we don't have the luxury of pumping up his stats and playing time for the main purposes of making a profit.

Monaco does.

If Pellegri goes to Monaco in January we can buy him in 1.5 years and he still can be homegrown

 

[Post Ironic]

Monaco is buying Pellegri as an investment. 25M now. In 2 years when he scores a few goals in the French league he'll be worth 50M. But we don't have the luxury of pumping up his stats and playing time for the main purposes of making a profit.

Monaco does.

If this kid cost 10-15mil I'd be for his purchase 100 percent. But 25 mil is obscene, even in this market.

 

[zizinho]

No we didn't. Tell me all the 16 year olds being sold for 25mil+ bonuses? It's too young to have any idea how he will turn out. He's reached an imposing physical size at a young age. Scored a couple goals for Genoa, none of them particularly impressive goals, one of them a total fluke with multiple deflections. He didn't score at a prolific rate in Genoa primavera or u-17s, and he scored 2 goals in 24 total appearances for Italy U-17 and U-16. 1 goal in 13 for u-17, 1 goal in 11 for u-16.

If we are spending 25 mil on a 16 year old I'd like to see one that has had at least a history of success in the youth levels.

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No. We can assume he's basically a complete unknown. And 25 mil is not pocket change for Juve to throw at a 16 year old. No big clubs are signing 16 year olds for this kind of money.

Real signed vinicius or whatever his name is for twice that much. and ofcourse clubs dont spend that much on 16 years olds, how many do you know that are playing in the top 5 leagues at that age anyway? they come rare, so you dont have a sample size to make an argument about top clubs dont buying them. what i do know is the market currently is crazy, and is getting only worse, so i can almost guarentee you he wont lose any value on hype alone in the next couple of years, and its likely to increase from 25M.

cant comment about the goals, havent seen him in any youth games so i wouldnt know why he doesent score that much. i did watch him in Serie A where he left a great impression on me, so ill take that over his youth competition stats

 

[MikeM]

I agree that Pellegri won't drop in value from his current 25M valuation. The issue for us is that we probably don't have 25M to drop on players that won't impact our roster.

There is Pellegrini in Roma who is coincidentally worth 25M. Has the same potential to increase in valuation. And will actually improve our club at the same time. So that's a wiser usage of 25M.

But if we buy Han for 20M, I'll kill myself. In that scenario I'd rather buy Pellegri.

 

[zizinho]

Monaco is buying Pellegri as an investment. 25M now. In 2 years when he scores a few goals in the French league he'll be worth 50M. But we don't have the luxury of pumping up his stats and playing time for the main purposes of making a profit.

Monaco does.

we were supposed to buy him as someone we expect to play an important role for us down the line, competing with Kean for a place in the team. i brought up the value factor tohighlight that, even if he doesent work out for us, he would still be rated/hyped enough to sell on, without making losses. and from what weve been doing for years now, he wouldnt have come here straight away anyway, he would have stayed at Genoa or been loaened to a Serie A club for 0.5-1.5 years, then we would see what with him after that