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abrakadaver07

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Orgut said:
Some people here are the definition of sheeps - They hear we are linked with a player, they might watch a youtube of him and might not, they are hearing his characteristics from one guy and suddenly they are "fapping" for his arrival...
Baselli... Did you even watch him play lets say... 3 times?! I guess not..
I have - He is a good player can tackle nicely although I wouldnt say he is a defensive player yet he is not the best attacking player.. He`ll score around 4 goals a season but he really isnt anything special.
I kind of like this player but honestly I`m not sure he is good enough for us - Marchisio Khedira Pjanic Lemina and Asamoah are all better than him!
P.S that Witsel guy which some of you dont want him even on a free transfer is way better than Baselli! 20M for Baselli?! Its not a good deal for us and not a good one for Torino either!

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Saponara - I hope some at least watched him play.. Yeah he is a good player but WC?! The only place he is WC is when he sleeps and dream about it.. To make it simple - Pjaca is an AM Saponara is an AM
Pjaca>Saponara and its not even close!
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Double standards eh?
 
Orgut

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zizinho said:
lol you rate Kante, your opinion is invalid

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it will happen one day :touched:
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Actually I dont... I just said that Lemina isnt all that and that Kante has great defensive skills and he knows how to push forward - It doesnt make him world class by any means but its enough for being better than Lemina..
You can continue twisting things as much as you want but it wouldnt change anything...

Let me guess Cerri is going to be WC too and he is better than Higuain?!

Sorry that making sense isnt up to your standards...

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abrakadaver07 said:
Double standards eh?
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Did you count the number of games I watched Pjaca and Saponara?!
 
zizinho

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Orgut said:
Actually I dont... I just said that Lemina isnt all that and that Kante has great defensive skills and he knows how to push forward - It doesnt make him world class by any means but its enough for being better than Lemina..
You can continue twisting things as much as you want but it wouldnt change anything...

Let me guess Cerri is going to be WC too and he is better than Higuain?!

Sorry that making sense isnt up to your standards...

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Did you count the number of games I watched Pjaca and Saponara?!
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sorry, i didnt know that rating someone is thinking hes WC in your dictionary. you also thought he would be a starter here which is ridiculous to say the least. also, just for the sake of it, the argument was should we give them Lemina for Kante, which i strongly disagreed with because Leminas potential is higher than Kantes, yet you said he will never be on that level. not that it matters though, just wanted to point out that your rating of players in not good enough to call others out ;)
 
Orgut

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zizinho said:
sorry, i didnt know that rating someone is thinking hes WC in your dictionary. you also thought he would be a starter here which is ridiculous to say the least. also, just for the sake of it, the argument was should we give them Lemina for Kante, which i strongly disagreed with because Leminas potential is higher than Kantes, yet you said he will never be on that level. not that it matters though, just wanted to point out that your rating of players in not good enough to call others out ;)
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It depends on the situation and it still is...
Our current setup Kante wouldnt be a good choice but if you play with more attacking players yes a player like Kante could balance things out!
As for potential yes Lemina has a higher ceiling although his ceiling IMO is much lower than you suggest...
As for Baselli - Is there even an argument about his quality?! He isnt good enough but for the sake of it lets say he is ok and he can fit in - He still not the dream signing some here made him to be with all this "fapping"...
Thats why I said everyone who dubbed him as "such a great player" clearly havent seen him play...

As for Saponara - He is too big of a fish to his lake but it doesnt mean he is a whale - I hope you understand my analogy
He is definitely a good player and deserves to play for a bigger team! He can start and even star for many of Italy`s best teams - Is he WC and we should do "everything to get him"?! Nope! Juventus is the ocean - a really big ocean and Saponara might be a good sub for us if we play with an AM kind of formation but if you take him and Pjaca - You can definitely tell who has more talent and who should start over who!
Dont get me wrong I do rate Saponara as a very good player but he isnt Juve kind of good!

Anyway Lemina - I really hope I`m wrong about him and he proves he is much better than what he has shown so far and if we are at it we are really going to suffer against the big teams with our mid but we might could cover it up by playing a faster style of football by launching balls to Higuain - He has shown he can score from any place - Give him half a chance and he`ll score!
 
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Orgut said:
It depends on the situation and it still is...
Our current setup Kante wouldnt be a good choice but if you play with more attacking players yes a player like Kante could balance things out!
As for potential yes Lemina has a higher ceiling although his ceiling IMO is much lower than you suggest...
As for Baselli - Is there even an argument about his quality?! He isnt good enough but for the sake of it lets say he is ok and he can fit in - He still not the dream signing some here made him to be with all this "fapping"...
Thats why I said everyone who dubbed him as "such a great player" clearly havent seen him play...

As for Saponara - He is too big of a fish to his lake but it doesnt mean he is a whale - I hope you understand my analogy
He is definitely a good player and deserves to play for a bigger team! He can start and even star for many of Italy`s best teams - Is he WC and we should do "everything to get him"?! Nope! Juventus is the ocean - a really big ocean and Saponara might be a good sub for us if we play with an AM kind of formation but if you take him and Pjaca - You can definitely tell who has more talent and who should start over who!
Dont get me wrong I do rate Saponara as a very good player but he isnt Juve kind of good!

Anyway Lemina - I really hope I`m wrong about him and he proves he is much better than what he has shown so far and if we are at it we are really going to suffer against the big teams with our mid but we might could cover it up by playing a faster style of football by launching balls to Higuain - He has shown he can score from any place - Give him half a chance and he`ll score!
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im not really serious about Saponara anyway, just like to exaggerate a bit. Baselli is a January signing, and it would surely be awesome if we could sign him then. we havent bought a CM and depending on the situation we could need one badly (asa and lemina on AFCON, if hernanes leaves + one injury... there you go). he is one of the more talented italian CMs so naturally people want him here
 
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