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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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If you think about we did a whole mercato without any cash, that's pretty good though i really lament the purchase of paredes and the loaning out of cambiaso. Tremendous effort no doubt from mgmt but i just don't know if it will translate in the field. I'm not optimistic tbh
One of the Argies on the forum seems to think Paredes is a decent signing. Not a world-beater, but a useful player for us. Too high wages are the biggest problem with his signing imo.

Would have liked to see a LB signed to start after they loaned Cambiaso. That seems a little ridiculous.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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If you think about we did a whole mercato without any cash, that's pretty good though i really lament the purchase of paredes and the loaning out of cambiaso. Tremendous effort no doubt from mgmt but i just don't know if it will translate in the field. I'm not optimistic tbh
You don't like Paredes?

I'm happy we are giving a chance to players like Miretti and Fagioli
 

Rockets

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Jul 26, 2022
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calcioefinanza made the list. * means players who benefit from the growth decree.

Among those high earners:
Vlahovic, Di Maira and Pogba (if healthy): deserve
Rabiot & Sandro : last year
Paredes: insane and indefensible
Bonucci: retire 2024
Woj: expire 2024, Tici masterpiece
Cuads: probably last year
Rugani: too much as a 4th CB, expire 2024

imo all the newcomers' wages are fairly reasonable bar Paredes. Rabiot and Sandro leaving next year would make the wage bill healthier. If Arthur does well at Liverpool (unlikely lul) and some EPL team buy him, that would be the cherry on the cake.

btw poor Miretti same wage as Pinso T T
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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calcioefinanza made the list. * means players who benefit from the growth decree.

Among those high earners:
Vlahovic, Di Maira and Pogba (if healthy): deserve
Rabiot & Sandro : last year
Paredes: insane and indefensible
Bonucci: retire 2024
Woj: expire 2024, Tici masterpiece
Cuads: probably last year
Rugani: too much as a 4th CB, expire 2024

imo all the newcomers' wages are fairly reasonable bar Paredes. Rabiot and Sandro leaving next year would make the wage bill healthier. If Arthur does well at Liverpool (unlikely lul) and some EPL team buy him, that would be the cherry on the cake.

btw poor Miretti same wage as Pinso T T
Interesting. Agree Paredes' wage is too high, even if I think he was a good signing. Mirretti will surely be getting an extension and wage bump if he keeps playing like he has been
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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#70
Loved our outgoings more than our incomings. We’ve done really well to slash our humongous wage bill and it’ll get even better from next year when Sandro, Rabiot, Cuadrado etc depart.

We are still badly lacking in the fullback positions and we badly nddd another solid CB option, but with all of the cash saved now, I expect us to make a move or two in winter. And next summer I hope and expect for us to finish plugging the holes left in our squad.

7.5/10 for me, Clive.
 
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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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#71
Gatti gonna turn heads imo. Him and Bremer gonna be a great partnership.

1 starting winger, starting LB, Starting RB, and CB depth are most important next summer.
At best hes gonna be 3rd choice, or 4th choice in a 3 man backline imo. For a Juve that is actually good.

I think you need starting calibers on the bench too. Milik is fine as vice Vlahovic, but we need 3 starter level wingers, 4-5 CMs, 3 starter level fullbacks and 3 CBs too. Someone to replace Szczesny and Perin staying. Then we can say we are going back to where we used to be some years ago, quality and depth to neutralize any injury crisis we might have
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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#72
At best hes gonna be 3rd choice, or 4th choice in a 3 man backline imo. For a Juve that is actually good.

I think you need starting calibers on the bench too. Milik is fine as vice Vlahovic, but we need 3 starter level wingers, 4-5 CMs, 3 starter level fullbacks and 3 CBs too. Someone to replace Szczesny and Perin staying. Then we can say we are going back to where we used to be some years ago, quality and depth to neutralize any injury crisis we might have
I think he’s gonna be better. I can see him developing into a starting CB in even a good Juve side. I could be wrong of course, but I think he has a very high ceiling.

And I think it’s wishful thinking that we’re going to have an extra starting level player or two in each position group. We don’t have the money for it, without a good deal of luck on the market. I’d rhope we develop our youngsters better and have them as the rotation options getting towards starting level players over time.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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#73
I think he’s gonna be better. I can see him developing into a starting CB in even a good Juve side. I could be wrong of course, but I think he has a very high ceiling.

And I think it’s wishful thinking that we’re going to have an extra starting level player or two in each position group. We don’t have the money for it, without a good deal of luck on the market. I’d rhope we develop our youngsters better and have them as the rotation options getting towards starting level players over time.
Well to me, Miretti, Rovella and Fagioli can give you two already, or even 3. Then you have Pogba and Loca. Paredes, I guess chances are slim that we don't use the obligation, but I think our midfield, for once, should be covered. CF too. We need one CB then (Gatti as 3rd choice and Bumucci as 4th choice on his retirement tour hopefully), a starting RB and LB, with Danilo able to play both sides, plus maybe Kostic. Then 2 wings, maybe we keep Di Maria or add another cheap stop gap like him while we go for Zaniolo. But we will have to sell ofcourse, Rugani, Kean, De Sciglio, McKennie, Zak, Arthur and I hope Szczesny. That's 5 good signings and a lot of selling, I hope we will manage to do it.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
#74
Unless SMS and Zaniolo signs and extension, i believe they will be the clubs target. Zaniolo post Maria exit, and SMS post Rabiot exit.
Hopefully both Pool and Chelsea sign up Arthur and Zakaria.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,904
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calcioefinanza made the list. * means players who benefit from the growth decree.

Among those high earners:
Vlahovic, Di Maira and Pogba (if healthy): deserve
Rabiot & Sandro : last year
Paredes: insane and indefensible
Bonucci: retire 2024
Woj: expire 2024, Tici masterpiece
Cuads: probably last year
Rugani: too much as a 4th CB, expire 2024

imo all the newcomers' wages are fairly reasonable bar Paredes. Rabiot and Sandro leaving next year would make the wage bill healthier. If Arthur does well at Liverpool (unlikely lul) and some EPL team buy him, that would be the cherry on the cake.

btw poor Miretti same wage as Pinso T T
Looking at this graphic, Parepiss's wages doesn't look too bad. He's costing us less than Bremer in terms of gross wages. I thought the gross amount would be much higher.

Sandro, Bonucci and Szczesny's wages needs to be cleared of our books asap tho.
 

Rockets

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2022
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#76
Looking at this graphic, Parepiss's wages doesn't look too bad. He's costing us less than Bremer in terms of gross wages. I thought the gross amount would be much higher.

Sandro, Bonucci and Szczesny's wages needs to be cleared of our books asap tho.
Its not that I think its a bad deal, nor do I think Paredes is a useless player. I think him together with pogba, loca/miretti will make the midfield become functional. I just dont think he deserves to be among the 2nd highest earner in the squad, considering his age, injury record and overall quality.
Agree with the rest.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,869
#77
Its not that I think its a bad deal, nor do I think Paredes is a useless player. I think him together with pogba, loca/miretti will make the midfield become functional. I just dont think he deserves to be among the 2nd highest earner in the squad, considering his age, injury record and overall quality.
Agree with the rest.
He isnt. He is tied with 8-10 in terms of wages paid by the club which seems fine imo.


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Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
#78
Credit where credit is due that wage bill is a lot more sustainable than it was 12 and particularly 24 months ago. That clearly seems to have been the sim of the Mercato.

What a wonderful hospital pass of Arthur to pool on deadline day. There’s no way they’ll take up the option and buy him outright because he is such a poor footballer and I’m sure he’ll be back with us next season but at least we’ve got his salary off the books. The Zak deal also if made permanent looks to be a good bit of opportunistic business.
 
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