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Catenaccio

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I, nor most people on this forum would be over enthusiastic about Sneijder. At best he would be a short term solution. And, I think its unlikely because he is cup-tied and we are not even sure we will still be in the champions league by the time the January transfer market opens. Even if he was cheap (i.e no big transfer fee and reasonable wages), he doesn't strike me as the sort of player who accept the bench - I doubt he would be a starter.

I would rather Coman get more playing time in that role.
 

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I'd be fine with Sneijder as a short term solution if he wasn't cup tied, especially if he wasn't too expensive. He would be a great stop-gap in the 4-3-1-2. He is still one of the best playmaking midfielders in Europe, although his shelf life is only a couple of years.

He can't play UCL though - seems kind of pointless.
 

kao_ray

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I'd be fine with Sneijder as a short term solution if he wasn't cup tied, especially if he wasn't too expensive. He would be a great stop-gap in the 4-3-1-2. He is still one of the best playmaking midfielders in Europe, although his shelf life is only a couple of years.

He can't play UCL though - seems kind of pointless.
I agree. Sneijder was a decent player and probably still is. It's not worth it though because we can't use him in UCL. So I'm wishing him good luck with United. He is perfect for them. Van Gaal is their coach and they don't play in UCL this year.

The recent idea about Reus is ... orgasmic :tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport:
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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You are not worried with a midfield trio of Pogba, Pereyra and Marchisio? From Pirlo (world's best deeplying playmaker) and Vidal (world's best B2B) to the Pereyra and Marchisio.

In defense CB is the only place where we atleast have numbers. Barzagli is the only one retiring soon so we have the center covered but we'll need fullbacks on both sides.

Tevez is as old as llorente and both have one to two years left with us. The only proper striker (that is not at Tevez level yet) is Morata. Coman, Berardi, Gabbiadini are even more uncertain. We'll need another morata like purchase within the next two years.

Buffon will also need replacing.

Young promising CM (Pjanic level of promise not pereyra or marchisio level) + promising AM (if the formation change is permanent) + Promising Rb + Promising Lb.

I'd say raid Tottenham for Paulinho and Erikson on the cheap, try for Ozil and get some bloke like Darmian and look for another full back to cover the other side.
You're worried that Marchisio doesn't have enough quality, but then your solution would be to raid Tottenham for friggin' Paulinho, the very definition of mediocre. :lol2:
 

FuriaCeca

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You are not worried with a midfield trio of Pogba, Pereyra and Marchisio? From Pirlo (world's best deeplying playmaker) and Vidal (world's best B2B) to the Pereyra and Marchisio.

In defense CB is the only place where we atleast have numbers. Barzagli is the only one retiring soon so we have the center covered but we'll need fullbacks on both sides.

Tevez is as old as llorente and both have one to two years left with us. The only proper striker (that is not at Tevez level yet) is Morata. Coman, Berardi, Gabbiadini are even more uncertain. We'll need another morata like purchase within the next two years.

Buffon will also need replacing.

Young promising CM (Pjanic level of promise not pereyra or marchisio level) + promising AM (if the formation change is permanent) + Promising Rb + Promising Lb.

I'd say raid Tottenham for Paulinho and Erikson on the cheap, try for Ozil and get some bloke like Darmian and look for another full back to cover the other side.
Midfield:

Yes I'm not worried at all. A trio of Pogba, Marchisio (Great as regista) and Pereyra (only 23 yr old) has great potential. Criticizing Marchisio and then asking for Paulinho or Ozil doesn't help your case at all. Paulinho is simply shit while ozil is not a midfielder he plays behind the strikers.

Defense:

It's true we have numbers in the CB position but that was never the problem, was it ? (bar the fact that we could say the same about midfield). The question is who will start for us when barzagli retires ? If you are okay with a combination of Chiello and Bonbon then be my guest, have fun watching our defense fail.

About full backs, in theory, we should get 2 fullbacks like you said. But then again it's all about prioreties. Licht can play for 2 more years and we have Caceres who is a very decent RB. LB is a real concern but like I said. I'm hoping Asamoah (who is still 25-26) can make that position his own.

Attack:

Tevez and llorente are both 30. They can play for 2-3 more years. By that time morata will be 25, Coman 21, Berardi 23, Gabbiadini 25. At least 2 of them (if not more) should be ready to start for us by that time. That is why I said we are covered in that department at least potentially.


And Buffon is gonna renew for 4 more years while we have Leali growing. Or we could get any other decent keeper by that time (4 years is a long time).
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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fuck Sneijder, seriously. We have Coman and Berardi climbing up the ladder, why slowing them down with a burned out ex-merda? Let him rot there.

He'd be good for current Milan I guess. For us it'd be a huge step backwards.
 

Mus™

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Mar 16, 2009
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Midfield:

Yes I'm not worried at all. A trio of Pogba, Marchisio (Great as regista) and Pereyra (only 23 yr old) has great potential. Criticizing Marchisio and then asking for Paulinho or Ozil doesn't help your case at all. Paulinho is simply shit while ozil is not a midfielder he plays behind the strikers.

Defense:

It's true we have numbers in the CB position but that was never the problem, was it ? (bar the fact that we could say the same about midfield). The question is who will start for us when barzagli retires ? If you are okay with a combination of Chiello and Bonbon then be my guest, have fun watching our defense fail.

About full backs, in theory, we should get 2 fullbacks like you said. But then again it's all about prioreties. Licht can play for 2 more years and we have Caceres who is a very decent RB. LB is a real concern but like I said. I'm hoping Asamoah (who is still 25-26) can make that position his own.

Attack:

Tevez and llorente are both 30. They can play for 2-3 more years. By that time morata will be 25, Coman 21, Berardi 23, Gabbiadini 25. At least 2 of them (if not more) should be ready to start for us by that time. That is why I said we are covered in that department at least potentially.


And Buffon is gonna renew for 4 more years while we have Leali growing. Or we could get any other decent keeper by that time (4 years is a long time).
Ozil can't play 90 minutes either, and it's not like we rotate our team and keep them fresh
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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You're worried that Marchisio doesn't have enough quality, but then your solution would be to raid Tottenham for friggin' Paulinho, the very definition of mediocre. :lol2:
Paulinho is horrible at the moment that goes without saying. But he was very good prior to his tottenham move and has now been banished from the team. He could be a good acquisition for peanuts at the moment.
You are right though. For some reason I thought he'd be 23 years old at most and so I thought there would be huge room for development but I was mistaken. He is 26 already so at best he'll be another Marchisio with high variations in performance levels. I'd still buy him as these sort of players are excellent for rotation and during injury crises (like how Marchisio helped fill for pirlo and vidal recently)

Perhaps Kovacic would be more acceptable? Srna just publicly advised him to dump Inter for a better club and he seems reluctant to renew his contract.

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Lol? For that statement to be funny there would need to be a few players who many agree have been better.

Let's hear them. Tevez is debatable. Nobody else has kept up with Marchisio.
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'Marchisio level'

Been our best player this season lol


Also $#@! Paulinho and $#@! Ozil even more.
Ozil is World Class. Low stamina and needs a good sub but only a year ago was he one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Ozil and Sneijder woudnt be bad.
 
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$#@! Sneijder, seriously. We have Coman and Berardi climbing up the ladder, why slowing them down with a burned out ex-merda? Let him rot there.

He'd be good for current Milan I guess. For us it'd be a huge step backwards.
Wesley Sneijder is still a top top player. Can't find many attacking mids as good as him and if we can get him for cheap why not? He is a hell of a lot better than most players around and is still only 30. He is by no means washed up or old. It could be a Pirlo or Tevez like signing for us.

Tevez----Llorente
------Sneijder---

Thats an elite attack capable of beating any team. Our midfield strength would give them a lot of freedom to create. Also with Pirlo getting up there in age and maybe Marchisio stepping in for him, Wesley would make up for the loss in creativity.

I think if there is an option to sign him for cheap it would be stupid not to.
It would also signal a longterm switch to a 3 man attack. Coman would see alot of playing time as an option for any of the front 3 positions.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Mus™;4738266 said:
Ozil can't play 90 minutes either, and it's not like we rotate our team and keep them fresh
Ozil would be an AM.

Marchiso, Pereyra, and Pogba (who'll probably be gone in two years two) are a much inferior trio to Vidal and Pirlo. This duo are our best players and replacing them requires more than just letting their subs play in their stead as first team starters. Marchisio is good cover and rotation but is far from reliable enough a fixed first team player. Pereyra is a big question mark still and Pogba will be a beast. We need atleast two out of the three to be beasts to retain our midfield's quality. Ofcoarse ideally we keep pogba and vidal and purchase another beast.

In CB we will have Chiellini, bonnuci, Cacares, Ogbonna and possibly Rugani. There are no other Barzaglis on the horizon.

Tevez and Llorente are no ADP and Trezgoal to be able to score consistently when they are over 32. I hope one of the young guns turns out to be good.

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Wesley Sneijder is still a top top player. Can't find many attacking mids as good as him and if we can get him for cheap why not? He is a hell of a lot better than most players around and is still only 30. He is by no means washed up or old. It could be a Pirlo or Tevez like signing for us.

Tevez----Llorente
------Sneijder---

Thats an elite attack capable of beating any team. Our midfield strength would give them a lot of freedom to create. Also with Pirlo getting up there in age and maybe Marchisio stepping in for him, Wesley would make up for the loss in creativity.

I think if there is an option to sign him for cheap it would be stupid not to.
It would also signal a longterm switch to a 3 man attack. Coman would see alot of playing time as an option for any of the front 3 positions.
Sneijder is also able to play as a CM if needs be.
 
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I would honestly rather sign Sneijder for 10 million Euro or so than sign many of the players we are linked with for a lot more.
The argument the youngsters wont play if we sign him may not be true given the fact we will be committed to using 3 attackers if we get him so it would more likely be Bonucci to hit the bench with players like Coman and Berardi (in the future) being backups for Tevez and Wesley.

We can't really depend on an 18 year old Coman (who wont turn 19 till next summer) to lead us to CL glory. We need to bring him in to the fold gradually and he can eventually become the superstar we all want him to be.

As for Wesley's Inter past, I love the fact we re taking one of the best players to ever play for them. It will devastate Inter fans and show how low they have become when Wesley, Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba are putting on our shirt and Palacio, Icardi, Osvaldo, and loads of other shitty players are putting on their jersey. :)
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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Ozil is not world class, he has world class abilities in his arsenal (no pun intended) but overall his game makes him a luxury player. One of the last players i'd ever want on my team if we were playing poorly and god forbid a goal or more down.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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No to Sneijder. We should stay away from these older players, that had accomplished all there is to accomplish in football and are close to retiring, unless our goal is to open up a nursing home.

And why are people constantly worried of our best players leaving the club? Is there anything to suggest that players like Pogba will leave us in immediate future? He got an excellent deal, 9m gross per year and it can raise up to 12m. You won't find many players in Europe that have signed contract on better terms.
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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I would honestly rather sign Sneijder for 10 million Euro or so than sign many of the players we are linked with for a lot more.
The argument the youngsters wont play if we sign him may not be true given the fact we will be committed to using 3 attackers if we get him so it would more likely be Bonucci to hit the bench with players like Coman and Berardi (in the future) being backups for Tevez and Wesley.

We can't really depend on an 18 year old Coman (who wont turn 19 till next summer) to lead us to CL glory. We need to bring him in to the fold gradually and he can eventually become the superstar we all want him to be.

As for Wesley's Inter past, I love the fact we re taking one of the best players to ever play for them. It will devastate Inter fans and show how low they have become when Wesley, Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba are putting on our shirt and Palacio, Icardi, Osvaldo, and loads of other shitty players are putting on their jersey. :)
Agreed. Wouldn't mind a former WC player who is still clearly talented, playing as our CAM for a couple of years. He'd be pretty cheap too and is much better to have whilst we get the likes of Coman ready as opposed to buying either a shit player from some Serie A team OR putting too much pressure on a kid, setting him up to fail.

Imagine the pressure Coman would be under if we made 4-3-1-2 our go to formation, knowing that HE and he alone is the key difference in our new system. Our only attacking mid, the only thing standing between us and reverting back to a 3-5-2 or some other backwards shit. A long string of expectedly poor games from him and he'd be screwed. I'd rather he develops in to his early 20's at least before we build a new formation primarily around him.
 
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