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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I was going to respond to Badass but I'm like meh...

Anyways.

Bring Shaqiri in December if its still possible.

Pray our youth (Zaza, Berardi & Co.) continue growing well this year and take up our options on them. Sell Llorente for 15m and reinvest.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,238
Quite honestly I'd take Dzeko over Llorente although he probably wouldn't be my #1 choice.

We definitely should have kept Immobile. Unlike Llorente, he has scored this year.
Immobile was always a dumb decision and that will never change.

Both are quite "immobile" players tbh. Picking up between the two doesn't make too much sense.

I have some hopes with Morata. He's tall, strong but at the same time more mobile and faster than Llorente. He's useful when playing an open game because he makes runs into channels and can dribble as well as pass pretty well.

Zaza is becoming a good striker too. I never thought he'd be anything more than a bargaining chip but lately he's showing a lot of potential.
Zaza is still a bargaining chip.
 
Mar 3, 2014
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Yeah so...we need to buy some players...good players, particularly ones that will prevent us from leaving UCL dollars on the table because if we miss that this year, that is a serious opportunity cost over the last 2 years. Juventus earns ~60 million Euro in EBITDA. We're currently leveraged around 3.00x EBITDA...Most businesses in this rates environment can sustain leverage ratios ranging from 4-4.5x. So currently, EBITDA is ~65 million euro, which means crudely we have ~100 million in debt capacity. In addition, we have whatever players we can sell and get off the book (*cough* Llorente and his 4.5 million euro net salary).

Next summer the target should be quality. Take advantage of cheap financing and turn the club around. Sell overpaid pylons and start to buy established players...You can't bargain hunt forever. You have to eventually pay up for quality. Ultimately, if this is the long term strategy, the brand will erode and you'll permanently lose revenue.

Morata was idiocy. Morata belongs on a team like Porto...
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,623
We need wingers, and we need some badly.

Oh but who am I kidding, were gonna stick to the 3-5-2 and buy more CMs.
If Pirlo is really finished and if we are really losing Vidal then CMS are definitely our priority. 2 with world class potential for that matter. That is only to hope to stay at the same level since pirlo and vidal are pretty tough to replace.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,623
Replacing this pirlo with a player that'd perform at this low level means that our midfield will stay as bad as it is now. What I was talking about is replacing the in-form pirlo that is our main creative outlet.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,411
Replacing this pirlo with a player that'd perform at this low level means that our midfield will stay as bad as it is now. What I was talking about is replacing the in-form pirlo that is our main creative outlet.
Its 95x easier to change system and use wingers than it is to replace prime Pirlo as that is impossible. Even if we could, fuck registas and fuck relying on deep lying mids to create. Ancient and pathetic
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,411
Would happily sell half our team and start again.


Barzagli can stay until he's done

Ogbonna can go. We need a replavement for Licht. Vidal can be cashed in on.

Pirlo can go, Llorente can go.

Basically we do so little to improve that we actually regress. Even with a shit strikeforce 2011 juve would absolutely rape this unmotivated, regressing pile of slow motion shit we have here.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
He has a punchable face, and I strongly dislike him :D

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Yeah so...we need to buy some players...good players, particularly ones that will prevent us from leaving UCL dollars on the table because if we miss that this year, that is a serious opportunity cost over the last 2 years. Juventus earns ~60 million Euro in EBITDA. We're currently leveraged around 3.00x EBITDA...Most businesses in this rates environment can sustain leverage ratios ranging from 4-4.5x. So currently, EBITDA is ~65 million euro, which means crudely we have ~100 million in debt capacity. In addition, we have whatever players we can sell and get off the book (*cough* Llorente and his 4.5 million euro net salary).

Next summer the target should be quality. Take advantage of cheap financing and turn the club around. Sell overpaid pylons and start to buy established players...You can't bargain hunt forever. You have to eventually pay up for quality. Ultimately, if this is the long term strategy, the brand will erode and you'll permanently lose revenue.

Morata was idiocy. Morata belongs on a team like Porto...
Yet he was one of the few, if not the only bright spot against Olympiakos last night.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
I'm not even as mad as i thought i'd be. It's hard to expect too much when some of our most important players are having a shitty season.

Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Chiellini, Llorente, Evra are really better than what they've shown so far.
 
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