Will Lack of Creativity Hurt Us This Season? (3 Viewers)
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Oh please, you really think Emerson, Vieira, Nedved, Olivera, and Zambrotta are truly creative players? I don't think so. Emerson is predictable as they come when the ball is at his feet....he just is very good at accomplishing what he's set out to do. Vieira is a good passer but doesn't have much creativity, pretty much the same as Emerson. These players are pretty much straightforward when the ball is at their feet. Zambrotta is a winger and is very quick with the ball at his feet and makes incisive runs, however his passing is not really that good and he's never looking for difficult passes. Nedved has drive but his passing is not entirely good and doesn't have much creativity. Olivera is just crap and the only creative player we have is Camo and he's always running up and down the wings. These players come nothing close to Xavi, Pirlo, Pizarro, or Xabi Alonso for instance.
As I stated earlier, Emerson and Paddy are just very mechanic and don't have many ideas with the ball. They do not have the passing and instinct of, say, Xavi, and that can easily be seen while watching us play.
It seems we are close to Mancini and Cassano so we will probably use a 4-3-3 or perhaps even a 3-4-3 with Mancini and Zambrotta on the wings. With Cassano we obtain a little bit more creativity however I doubt this will enough to change the way we move forward with the ball.
It seems we are close to Mancini and Cassano so we will probably use a 4-3-3 or perhaps even a 3-4-3 with Mancini and Zambrotta on the wings. With Cassano we obtain a little bit more creativity however I doubt this will enough to change the way we move forward with the ball.
If you think that Emerson, Vieira, Nedved and Zambrotta are creative then our opinions as to what the word means differ. Emerson and Vieira can pass but they definitely aren't very creative, same goes for Nedved whose game is based on intricate runs and a tremendous work ethic. Even when Pavel played behind the front two under Lippi he was never really a creative player, merely a decent passer with one hell of a long shot. Zambrotta bombs down the flank and delivers quality crosses but is he creative? I don't think so. Olivera is somewhat creative but most of the time he doesn't manage to pull off the unpredictable things he tries while Mutu shouldn't really be classed as an out-and-out midfielder and we don't even know if he'll be playing his club football in Turin this year. Really and truly our only natural creative midfield player is Camoranesi and he can't do it all on his own.
The prospect of a 3-4-3 with Mancini and Zambrotta on the wings is mouthwatering but where does that leave Camoranesi? If we sign Mancini and Cassano surely the team will look something like this most of the time:
Abbiati
Thuram - Kovac - Cannavaro
Mancini - Emerson - Vieira - Zambrotta
Ibrahimovic - Trezeguet - Cassano
If that is indeed the case I think we'll also need to sign another centre half for cover. But one question still needs to be answered: Mancini and Cassano are wonderful players but is transforming a winning team so rapidly so that Capello can have his former Roma colleagues at his disposal the right thing to do?
Abbiati
Thuram - Kovac - Cannavaro
Mancini - Emerson - Vieira - Zambrotta
Ibrahimovic - Trezeguet - Cassano
If that is indeed the case I think we'll also need to sign another centre half for cover. But one question still needs to be answered: Mancini and Cassano are wonderful players but is transforming a winning team so rapidly so that Capello can have his former Roma colleagues at his disposal the right thing to do?
I'd prefer Del Piero, Mutu, and maybe Nedved to be in rotation.. I REALLY don't want cassano to join us.. at least until next summer..
If Mancini and cassano join then I think the following would be a good formation:
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-Mancini--Thuram--Canna--Rambo
----Vieira----Camo/Neddy---Emo--
--Zlatan/DP--------Trez---------Cassano/DP
If Mancini and cassano join then I think the following would be a good formation:
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-Mancini--Thuram--Canna--Rambo
----Vieira----Camo/Neddy---Emo--
--Zlatan/DP--------Trez---------Cassano/DP
If you check the Tactics and Formations thread in this respective forum, I gave a few hints at what Capello might do with Cassano and Mancini in the squad.
If Zambrotta and Mancini take the wings in a 3-4-3 system I think Camoranesi would take a more advanced role, perhaps playing behind the two forwards or playing right forward next to Ibrahimovic and Cassano. Of course this is just speculation and trying to fit all these players in the same team would be rather difficult.
Here is something I thought up earlier today and I like the looks of it. Of course this would be very attacking and Capello would never try it, however something like this would perhaps solve our creativity and attacking problems:
Buffon
Zebina - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta
Camoranesi - Vieira
Mancini - Cassano - Mutu
Ibrahimovic
In this highly risky system Camoranesi would basically play a deep-lying playmaker with a little bit more freedom to move forward while Vieira holds in midfield. Of course this would be at the expense of Emerson, however Capello could take Mutu out, switch Mancini to the left wing role, move Camoranesi up to right wing, and put Emerson next to Vieira again. That would be much more realistic while still being very potent going forward.
But yeah, check that tactics thread Stu.
If Zambrotta and Mancini take the wings in a 3-4-3 system I think Camoranesi would take a more advanced role, perhaps playing behind the two forwards or playing right forward next to Ibrahimovic and Cassano. Of course this is just speculation and trying to fit all these players in the same team would be rather difficult.
Here is something I thought up earlier today and I like the looks of it. Of course this would be very attacking and Capello would never try it, however something like this would perhaps solve our creativity and attacking problems:
Buffon
Zebina - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta
Camoranesi - Vieira
Mancini - Cassano - Mutu
Ibrahimovic
In this highly risky system Camoranesi would basically play a deep-lying playmaker with a little bit more freedom to move forward while Vieira holds in midfield. Of course this would be at the expense of Emerson, however Capello could take Mutu out, switch Mancini to the left wing role, move Camoranesi up to right wing, and put Emerson next to Vieira again. That would be much more realistic while still being very potent going forward.
But yeah, check that tactics thread Stu.
i have to say that the 3-4-3 formation would do us a great deal at the offensive end of the field but think about it .....for a second.
At the defensive end, i dont think a three man defense is the best option at the moment. Last year although we had the best defense but i think the fact that zambro and zebina helped the center-backs alot.They made a great contribution to that defense.
Another thing is that i dont think that having Kovac in a three man defense is the best option.I mean he is great as sub. for the regular center backs.
I think thats the only flaw in that formation. If kovac can produce the good performances then we would be safe i think .
All n' all i dont think that capello would use that formation its too risky for him.
At the defensive end, i dont think a three man defense is the best option at the moment. Last year although we had the best defense but i think the fact that zambro and zebina helped the center-backs alot.They made a great contribution to that defense.
Another thing is that i dont think that having Kovac in a three man defense is the best option.I mean he is great as sub. for the regular center backs.
I think thats the only flaw in that formation. If kovac can produce the good performances then we would be safe i think .
All n' all i dont think that capello would use that formation its too risky for him.