8 million pounds for owen? i'd rather get saviola on loan and use that cash for the defence. besides, saviola to me has more qualities than owen, he can dribble and create for starters.
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regardless, wouldnt you rather get saviola on loan than get owen? ok, i'll put it to ya differently, Saviola on loan, and put that 8 million pounds in the bank on a fixed interest...its still better than getting owen.
regardless, wouldnt you rather get saviola on loan than get owen? ok, i'll put it to ya differently, Saviola on loan, and put that 8 million pounds in the bank on a fixed interest...its still better than getting owen.
Your missing my point I dont even want Owen,
For sure loaning Saviola and spending the money elsewhere would be smarter business. but its not like we are loaning Crespo or Veron, we would be getting a young player that Barca doesn´ t want for the moment, so to me that raises the question, Are we Venezia or some club like that? People even wanted him in the starting lineup, so a player thats Barca even wants to loan out is good enough for Juve, but a player like Owen who has been scoring goals regurlary for years isn´t good enough? Once again thats a bite ironic in my eyes!
barca have ronaldinho, deco, larsson, eto, guily and many more at the club, Saviola is being loaned out because they are aware he may not get a game. he isnt NEEDED at the club with all those players...alla Riquelme, another very good footballer.
at juve, a forward is needed, regardless of this player being not needed by another club, he is still a very good young forward who may have a future at juve post loan. because barca dont need him doesnt mean he isnt good and not useful. Did you want Mutu at the club? i know most in here did and he was good enough for the job also.
all im saying is that knowing the club isnt able to spend a lot of cash this summer, being able to obtain a player on loan such as Saviola is the best option. majority of loan spells at clubs end up in that player joining the team unless they are like davids and money hungry. Owen has scored loads of goals....thats great, but he hasnt been that good these past 2 seasons not to mention he totally doesnt suit juve nor serie A. Unless Capello wants Thuram to just shoot long balls up the field, then Owen is pretty much useless.
at juve, a forward is needed, regardless of this player being not needed by another club, he is still a very good young forward who may have a future at juve post loan. because barca dont need him doesnt mean he isnt good and not useful. Did you want Mutu at the club? i know most in here did and he was good enough for the job also.
all im saying is that knowing the club isnt able to spend a lot of cash this summer, being able to obtain a player on loan such as Saviola is the best option. majority of loan spells at clubs end up in that player joining the team unless they are like davids and money hungry. Owen has scored loads of goals....thats great, but he hasnt been that good these past 2 seasons not to mention he totally doesnt suit juve nor serie A. Unless Capello wants Thuram to just shoot long balls up the field, then Owen is pretty much useless.
4 of the 5 players you mentioned are new players. So if Saviola is so good how come they bought all of them? Because its not like he is 34 or something like that, think about that aswell.
Yeah I know Owen hasnt been that good the last 2 seasons, but when have Saviola done anything special? And for the 10th time, I DONT WANT JUVE TO SIGN OWEN! But the thing I cant understand is how you all want Saviola who is even smaller than Owen and calling Owen a shitty player, when he has done so much more than Saviola? And there is a big difference between getting Mutu and getting Saviola!
My point with this whole thread wasn´t about that I wanted Juve to buy Owen, I was trying to explain the percs of such a transfer.
Because I can promise you buying Beckham or Ronaldinho is cheaper than buying Di Vaio in the end. You cant just look at the the transfers fee and say thats way to much money. football isnt just a sport anymore its first business then the game, like it or not.
I still remember what Perez said about Vieria two seasons ago when the price tag mentioned with Vieria was double the fee mentioned this summer. He words were that Vieria wasn´t worth the money Arsenal was asking for because he did not have that selling image. Emerson said the reason why he rejected Real was beacuse Perez said in January that he wasn´t a galactico. I´m quite sure he wasn´t talking about his game, he was talking about his image. In other words that would of been expensive transfers because they dont sell the same ammount of shirts as players like Zidane, Ronaldinho, Beckham or Owen for that matter. Real madrid buys great players but also does good business. See my point?
River, id be the first to agree: Dp is just a shadow of the player he was. Fading fast is putting it mildly. He cant even hold up the ball anymore, now he just goes down easy. But even at this stage, im going to have to say Del Piero has greater skill on the ball than Owen. However, yes, they are different players, no doubt. So its hard to compare them. On the other hand, comparing Micco and Michael is a tad unfair as well. Micco hasnt had the chance to prove himself the way Owen has. And from the chances Owen has had, i think he can be deemed a failure as regards his performances in the last 5 years. That time span is enough to prove or disregard a player's credentials. Honestly, id like to see where Rooney ends up in 5 years, coz i find him extremely similar to Michael Owen even in terms of media coverage Owen got early in his career. Today,like you say the english press may criticise Owen, but that only stems from the fact that they have high expectations off him. Something, i dont think he's capable of delivering anymore. I think his stint at Madrid can make or break his career, now.
Del Piero OR Micco at Liverpool. Are you kidding? They'd run havoc in England. Michael, in fact like i said before would struggle to do anything at all in the Serie A. Even with Pavel Nedved supplying.
Del Piero OR Micco at Liverpool. Are you kidding? They'd run havoc in England. Michael, in fact like i said before would struggle to do anything at all in the Serie A. Even with Pavel Nedved supplying.
But have you watched much of Owen or are you going on hype? Because even an out of form Owen is still a threat. And he hasnt even been THAT bad. How can someone say a player with his goalscoring record isnt good. His goalscoring record is alot better than most. High expectations bring critism, yes. But like i said i dont think Owen is the greatest, simply making the point that he is good and a far shot of 'shite'. And I do think he would easily make the Juve squad.
Micco not having a chance? Thats kinda irrelevent as we are judging how good these players are now, not how much potential they have. Id be quite confident however that Mico will never turn his potential into anything near what Owen has, but thats just my opinion. And to be honest a player Micos age who hasnt developed yet would worry me.
Del Piero run havoc in England? First i disagree and second I said Liverpool. Del Piero wouldnt make an impact at all at a club like Liverpool because he dosent have anywhere near the workrate required. And infact I dont think the premierships fast game would suit Del Piero at all.
Micco not having a chance? Thats kinda irrelevent as we are judging how good these players are now, not how much potential they have. Id be quite confident however that Mico will never turn his potential into anything near what Owen has, but thats just my opinion. And to be honest a player Micos age who hasnt developed yet would worry me.
Del Piero run havoc in England? First i disagree and second I said Liverpool. Del Piero wouldnt make an impact at all at a club like Liverpool because he dosent have anywhere near the workrate required. And infact I dont think the premierships fast game would suit Del Piero at all.
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Eventhough River might be right, I still very much believe Owen would fail, miserably, in the Serie A. He has a tough time keeping up the scoring in the EPL. What makes you think he would succeed in Italy? I bet you he would be less of a player than Di Vaio was for us. So I'd take Alex over Owen this season.
Never said Owen was shite. Only overrated. 
Still stand by that. Saw him play in the Euro and last season. Wasnt impressed at all. I get your defense for Owen, which is valid when you say he's far from shite. But im sorry, he's not world class. And i still stand by him not being good enough to warrant a place in Madrid or Juve's starting line ups.
Miccoli is what 23? I wouldnt be worried at all. He's got some way to go. Owen is about a couple of years older? And he seems to have been around forever....but hes got nothing to show for it...things could change ... but if they dont, during his time at Madrid, then i guess...he'll fade quickly from people's minds. Not to mention, the media.
Yes, Dp doesnt have the workrate. But he does have skill to pull it off in the premiership. I feel its well suited to his game. The workrate demands a lot more in Italy than in England comparitively. So i think his game would hold...
Still stand by that. Saw him play in the Euro and last season. Wasnt impressed at all. I get your defense for Owen, which is valid when you say he's far from shite. But im sorry, he's not world class. And i still stand by him not being good enough to warrant a place in Madrid or Juve's starting line ups. Miccoli is what 23? I wouldnt be worried at all. He's got some way to go. Owen is about a couple of years older? And he seems to have been around forever....but hes got nothing to show for it...things could change ... but if they dont, during his time at Madrid, then i guess...he'll fade quickly from people's minds. Not to mention, the media.
Yes, Dp doesnt have the workrate. But he does have skill to pull it off in the premiership. I feel its well suited to his game. The workrate demands a lot more in Italy than in England comparitively. So i think his game would hold...