why are people so stupid (23 Viewers)

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
I never meant it otherwise, in fact, Hydde said he was gonna create a thread but I guess he forgot
hey fabi... i said i would mention about it in the "some things that u wished to be never invented" thread,,,and infact i did ;)



ditto...

no matter how greedy Bush, or anyone in the US government is, There's no way he'll kill his own people, cause chaos, screw the economy....

I'm sure there's way more to 9/11 then we know, but i wouldn't go that far Nedved. It's not logical!
IM with u.

I can assure that The OIl have a big part in Irak´s invasion.. but to say that bush ordered the 9/11,... its too much dude..

about the security in the airports..... believe me.... A terrorist group..well organized and with moths of planning can do that kind of things.
If u think how easy is to take a gun and start killing people like cray in a mall... just imagine what can do proffesional terrorists with money and good orientation.


What pisses me off is how people are automatically branded terorists and others not.

More innocent Iraqis died on the FIRST DAY OF THE US BOMBINGS than the victims of 9/11. What do you call Bush?

on 9/11, Tanks, Bulldozers, and planes completely demolished The Town of Jenin in Palestine and it was NEVER EVEN MENTIONED IN THE NEWS. Thousands were brutally massacered, burried alive, raped, thrown from their homes while it went unnoticed! Has the Israeli Aramy ever been branded Terrorists?!?! Of course not, because they're backed by the US government. They threaten the whole region with their Nukes!!
Get this, the only form of retaliation for palastininans, who've been treated worse than most anamals on earth, is throwing stones and blowing themselves up. Ok, I dont support killing innocent people, but i ask myself what i would do if an army came to my home, raped my family in front of me, beat me, burried them alive, then left me wounded to die (god forbid), blowing myself up willl surely cross my mind!
To tell you the truth, I honestly dont know what to think about this... The good and bad is all blurred into one...

Anyhow, When the USA killed tens of thousands Japanese people (if not, more) at the End of WWII because of revenge on pearl harbor, have they ever been branded terrorists or mass murderers of women and children??

It's all f'ed up!

it does in many cases... it opens many people's eyes to whats going on, it provides a form of resistance for the weak, It drives huge invading/opressing armies crazy and in many cases these huge armies have no choice but to leave .... but it's worse because the weak/opressed are being as inhuman as their opressors by retaliating.

The Huge dillemma is: Should i retaliate and kill their innocent to drive the opressors away from my innocent people?? or should i just bow and continue to live in opression and missery?!

tough one, eh?
This is where logic ends, and emotions come in to choose the first option.


If there's love to begin with, this all won't happen. All it takes is one friggin asshole to start this terrible chain reaction. some reactions have been going on for years and years.


WHERE IS THE LOVE PEOPLE?
ONE THING IS CLEAR:

PEACE IS THE ONLY OPTION. THIS MEANS ALL SIDES HAVE TO MAKE COMPRAMIZES AND TRY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO FORGET THE PAST AND MOVE ON TOGETHER AS HUMANS.
War is natural, peace is artificial. Certain people will never forget the past to move on together as humans. Human nature is idealisticly self-centered. The weak/opressed/offended will always stay that way, and it will take generations to forget the past.

20% of my country is occupied by terrorists from a neighboring nation. We have more than 1,000,000 refugees. Some villages have been literally growned, thousands women and children were killed purely because of their nationality, and guess how it made me feel when I saw those corps on TV.

200 people killed in Madrid. At the very same time people keep dying in Kahmire, Chechnya, Karabakh, Ireland, Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia... there are so many places on this planet where humans kill one another every single day.

War has always been a certepiece of the history of human kind. And it will always stay that way.

IN Summary...... there is not only war or terrorism........... in fact.... in our days... the human kind, all the ones who live in this planet........ we are full of evil, and i feel deeply sad about it. Even the most humble person have a little of evil inside... but is almost insignificant. The problem is when people is raised with hate and delivers it in the forms that all we know.

IM not just talking about murders... not just war or killing... im talking about everything in general.

IMO... in the end.... everything start with the family. U have to give love and spread love around you...to receive love. This basic rule is what we forgot as humans. IM very thankfull to have a family that teached this important message to me since i was a kid.

Ill be sincere. Im catolic. I consider myself not a good catolic in the way that i dont know some things that i should...... but everyday i try to do my best...to be nice and to not do evil in my life. Thats my own religion. I think that it doesnt matter if we are muslims, if we believe in catolicsm, in Budda , in Ala or whatever.... it all resumes in the same: "Spread love and receive love".


I think that this world needs to be purified... because i think that we are too corrupted as a whole........and even when i think that there are more good people than evil... i dont see big changes about this kind of behaviour in humans.


I really feel that this world have to end soon or at least, to be purified..... because there is a need to start everything again, because those who spread love deserve a chance to be separated from those who spread evil ... because we, as humans, ...dont deserve this beatifull planet to live, we simply didnt.

...

....... Anyways,,, at this rate... "those" with power will end this story sooner or later.
 

Elnur_E65

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2004
10,848
#64
++ [ originally posted by Hydde ] ++


I can assure that The OIl have a big part in Irak´s invasion.. but to say that bush ordered the 9/11,... its too much dude..

about the security in the airports..... believe me.... A terrorist group..well organized and with moths of planning can do that kind of things.
If u think how easy is to take a gun and start killing people like cray in a mall... just imagine what can do proffesional terrorists with money and good orientation.

IN Summary...... there is not only war or terrorism........... in fact.... in our days... the human kind, all the ones who live in this planet........ we are full of evil, and i feel deeply sad about it. Even the most humble person have a little of evil inside... but is almost insignificant. The problem is when people is raised with hate and delivers it in the forms that all we know.

IM not just talking about murders... not just war or killing... im talking about everything in general.

IMO... in the end.... everything start with the family. U have to give love and spread love around you...to receive love. This basic rule is what we forgot as humans. IM very thankfull to have a family that teached this important message to me since i was a kid.

Ill be sincere. Im catolic. I consider myself not a good catolic in the way that i dont know some things that i should...... but everyday i try to do my best...to be nice and to not do evil in my life. Thats my own religion. I think that it doesnt matter if we are muslims, if we believe in catolicsm, in Budda , in Ala or whatever.... it all resumes in the same: "Spread love and receive love".

I think that this world needs to be purified... because i think that we are too corrupted as a whole........and even when i think that there are more good people than evil... i dont see big changes about this kind of behaviour in humans.

I really feel that this world have to end soon or at least, to be purified..... because there is a need to start everything again, because those who spread love deserve a chance to be separated from those who spread evil ... because we, as humans, ...dont deserve this beatifull planet to live, we simply didnt.

...

....... Anyways,,, at this rate... "those" with power will end this story sooner or later.
You are so right, Hydde.

It takes for people like all of us to spread the concepts of universal love, friendship and respect towards one another. And I am very proud to see that in spite of what is currently going on in the world, we are much better off today in 2004 than we were just 20 years ago.

I am working on a pipeline constuction project. In our team there are representatives of 28 (!) different nationalities. One of the biggest challenges we had in the beginning was to ensure that the atmosphere at work is lose and relaxed. And we've succeded. In our camp bar every day you will see an Indian, a Russian, a Scotish, an Azeri guy sitting together drinking, watching football, just having fun! Whenever these guys go back home for vacation, they tell their friends and families how great of a time they've had on this project.

So we are indeed moving forward in this interdependent world in the 21st century.

No matter how hard I try, I still have EVIL in me. And I know that I am very very wrong... but sometimes (very seldom)... I want an airplane chartered by Real Madrid... with all of its players... to hit... an airplane chartered by AC Milan, 10,000 meters above the Earth :). Please forgive me! But I had to tell this only evil idea I've had.
 

Majed

Senior Member
Jul 17, 2002
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#65
++ [ originally posted by Pendir ] ++

No matter how hard I try, I still have EVIL in me. And I know that I am very very wrong... but sometimes (very seldom)... I want an airplane chartered by Real Madrid... with all of its players... to hit... an airplane chartered by AC Milan, 10,000 meters above the Earth :). Please forgive me! But I had to tell this only evil idea I've had.
:dazed:
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#66
I think that'd be a huge loss for football. Great, we have a better chance of winning the CL, but would anyone care in light of such an event?
 

Lilianna

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Apr 3, 2003
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#67
++ [ originally posted by arifelly |Juve| ] ++
i couldnt kill for the money...but when i think, i dont know if i could kill for the money or not, MONEY CAN DO ANYTHING! ;)
i don't agree.
i couldn't marry a rich guy just because of his money
 
OP
Lawnchair Bes
Jan 7, 2004
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  • Thread Starter #70
    ++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
    To those who oppose America's power: all empires fall. To those who support it: it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

    ;)
    u a moderator arent u? :D


    but on a more serious note. it is true, lately i have noticed that humans are doing more often evil things.
     
    Aug 1, 2003
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    #73
    I just don't get humans. I'm naive. What's so hard about peace? Why do people support corruption? Why do people want to destroy things? WHY? What's the whole friggin point? Can't we all in this world have good moraled politicians who would create peace for all of us? Why does everything has to create problems? Why not be friends?
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    #74
    Okay, you're country A. They're country B

    Country B bombs you. You want peace, so you do nothing. Your country has riots all over the place for the injustice, so you realise that maybe you need to settle the score. You bomb country B. Are they gonna sit back and say "okay, we're even now". No! They're gonna bomb you back because of those people you just killed. Repeat ad infinitum

    that's what's so difficult about peace.

    Pride and rights
     
    OP
    Lawnchair Bes
    Jan 7, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by sallyinzaghi ] ++
    I just don't get humans. I'm naive. What's so hard about peace? Why do people support corruption? Why do people want to destroy things? WHY? What's the whole friggin point? Can't we all in this world have good moraled politicians who would create peace for all of us? Why does everything has to create problems? Why not be friends?
    i suggest u read thomas hobbes. it will explain a lot
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    #77
    Okay maybe not pride, but revenge; the feeling that one has been dealt injustice and the need to avenge oneself
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    Oh come on Zlatan, you know that so many conflicts around the world have nothing to do with money; in fact, i'm sure a large percentage of said conflicts are in countries with a neglectable amount of money in them anyway :rolleyes:
     

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