Where as, Gary Neville has consistently been England's best defender, you ask anyone in England, to name 1 defender, who has never ever let England down, and it would only be Gary Neville, he has NEVER had a bad tornement for England, and for Man Utd he has been brilliant, and since Beckham's departure has been even better, considering Thuram is older then Neville, why is Neville the 2nd most experienced player in Europe? As in only Raul has played more CL games then Gary!