Where will Mutu be used? (1 Viewer)

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


So the question is why not Mutu? Why shouldn't have we brought Mutu to Turin? Juventus had to pay nothing to get Mutu; a player who before his Chelsea transfer was one of the brightest prospects in world football. So he did a little coke.......so what. That doesn't mean he still uses coke at present time and that doesn't mean we shouldn't give him another chance.

A majority of people do coke. But why the blitz on Mutu? Thats because he's Adrian Mutu - a famous football player with an apparently bright career ahead of him. Its as simple as that. Nobody cares if Lecce or Livorno are using creatine or not, they're always going to have a gaze fixed on Juventus, because Juventus is one of the biggest, most noteworthy clubs in the world.

 

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[Geof]

Where will Mutu be used?

DEA

 

[- vOnAm -]

AttckMidfielder/Support striker, next season I'd like to see

Gilardino-----Zlatan
---------Mutu

 

[Primo]

Hmmm, everyone keeps insisting we'll get Gila. But I doubt he wants to go here.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Well, I beg to differ. I think we do need his services. I don't know how you can say we don't need Mutu's services when you list Shaboni Nonda as a striker we are supposedly going after. You say we are going after many other strikers, but why should we when we have Mutu?

Yes, he used coke in the past and came up positive during a test. I've used drugs in the past and I still play for my college team. Did I suddenly become a useless player after I took a few hits? I don't think so. People tend to over-dramatize using drugs, and Mutu is clearly a case.

I don't think anybody here is rating Mutu as the "new Baggio," however many do think he could add something to this team. Drug users are not forever drug users, and I highly doubt Mutu would be considered an addict. If he was, most likely our staff would realize and he would not have been training with Juventus over the past few months.

So the question is why not Mutu? Why shouldn't have we brought Mutu to Turin? Juventus had to pay nothing to get Mutu; a player who before his Chelsea transfer was one of the brightest prospects in world football. So he did a little coke.......so what. That doesn't mean he still uses coke at present time and that doesn't mean we shouldn't give him another chance. Mutu is certainly worth the risk, and if he regains even half of that Parma form we will be in good shape. There are no feasible arguments for denying Mutu his chance in Turin.

Do you have any arguments Rab?

No Andrew we don't need his services, I don't think Moggi Bought Mutu because he's for free, It's just Business, We can Sell Mutu with lot of cash (Hope am right)

I admit he has SOME class not as you guys think, (Freekicks,shooting from distance) Thats all. and yes thats all. Now if you gonna bring me the Parma days, It's all over now.

Well Andrew, I didn't use Coke, so i don't know how it is, but one thing I know for sure is that a Football Player is Forbidden to take it, and Don't tell me now " we all make mistakes ", yes we all make mistakes but not THESE kind of mistakes.

Nonda was just an example, I just gave ya some the names of some players could be helpfull and younger then Mutu. Even Cassano would be better, Even if his attitude doesn't suit Juve, But I'll take Cassano anyday over Mutu.

Oh and another thing, Isn't Mutu the one who rated Serie A as the most Overrated League in the World, Saying that Serie A will never be Like EPL. He said this the 1st day he signed for Parma.

Get him out ffs.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++


This is something I'd like to see. I don't know why you thrash Mutu so much and even though you are Romanian, I think you need to appreciate and admit a little that the guy has talent. Well, he certainly doesn't suck.

I thrash him because he doesn't deserve all this, I bash him because he's not Juve Type. (Still I hope he can prove me wrong) which i see it Impossible.

And btw am not Romanian, am Lebanese.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by - vOnAm - ] ++
AttckMidfielder/Support striker, next season I'd like to see

Gilardino-----Zlatan
---------Mutu

Mutu is not Trezeguet, he's not Finisher, Capello should either choose Mutu or Zlatan because they are similar, Gila is the finisher(Bring him Moggi ffs)

 

[Elnur_E65]

Hmmm... I thought Gilardino was closer to Milan

 

[Juventini_IL]

++ [ originally posted by Elnur_E65 ] ++
Hmmm... I thought Gilardino was closer to Milan

true.as closer as possible,he'll be Rosonerro next season.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


No Andrew we don't need his services, I don't think Moggi Bought Mutu because he's for free, It's just Business, We can Sell Mutu with lot of cash (Hope am right)

I admit he has SOME class not as you guys think, (Freekicks,shooting from distance) Thats all. and yes thats all. Now if you gonna bring me the Parma days, It's all over now.

Well Andrew, I didn't use Coke, so i don't know how it is, but one thing I know for sure is that a Football Player is Forbidden to take it, and Don't tell me now " we all make mistakes ", yes we all make mistakes but not THESE kind of mistakes.

Nonda was just an example, I just gave ya some the names of some players could be helpfull and younger then Mutu. Even Cassano would be better, Even if his attitude doesn't suit Juve, But I'll take Cassano anyday over Mutu.

Oh and another thing, Isn't Mutu the one who rated Serie A as the most Overrated League in the World, Saying that Serie A will never be Like EPL. He said this the 1st day he signed for Parma.

Get him out ffs.

Isn't that what we miss?

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


No Andrew we don't need his services, I don't think Moggi Bought Mutu because he's for free, It's just Business, We can Sell Mutu with lot of cash (Hope am right)

Can you explain to me why exactly we don't need his services? Do we have a lot of cash? Why would we want Nonda instead of Mutu? Any reasoning here?

I admit he has SOME class not as you guys think, (Freekicks,shooting from distance) Thats all. and yes thats all. Now if you gonna bring me the Parma days, It's all over now.

He has some class? Thats great! We are missing some class.

We have not seen Mutu play since last year. How do we know he's not good anymore? You saw him in practice? Big deal, it was probably just an informal kick around anyway.

Well Andrew, I didn't use Coke, so i don't know how it is, but one thing I know for sure is that a Football Player is Forbidden to take it, and Don't tell me now " we all make mistakes ", yes we all make mistakes but not THESE kind of mistakes.

Yes, and he was caught and served a ban. Now the ban is going to be up, so why shouldn't we give him a chance? I'm still waiting for concrete answers here Rab. If he's training well with Juventus, why shouldn't we give him a chance?

Oh and another thing, Isn't Mutu the one who rated Serie A as the most Overrated League in the World, Saying that Serie A will never be Like EPL. He said this the 1st day he signed for Parma.

Get him out ffs.

Hmm, I don't see why that should be a reason for denying him an opportunity to play for Juve.

 

[Huzi]

well , i think that Cassano is much better then Adrain . . . Not that Mutu isn't good but Cassano is a type of player that can give his contribution to the whole team , something which is missing in Mutu .

 

[baggio]

I think that would need some clarification. What do you mean by, can give his contribution to the whole team? In fact, you've mixed up your choices here. It is really Mutu who can contribute in a more versatile manner than Cassano. Mutu has better ball dispersing skills than Cassano. And could provide the perfect link from midfield to attack. Cassano on the other hand, has a more selfish edge to his game. His instincts are top notch, and hes got decent speed, but he loses out a great deal to Mutu on one very important count: maturity. Something Del Piero's successor would need to carry this team.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

++ [ originally posted by - vOnAm - ] ++
AttckMidfielder/Support striker, next season I'd like to see

Gilardino-----Zlatan
---------Mutu

That is perfect..
Mutu is not a striker and therfore he will do JUST great there!! as a Forward..

Forza This attack

 

[alex_samatar]

i think he will be another Zidane

 

[Elnur_E65]

Alex Samatar, where have you been all this time, man?

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Can you explain to me why exactly we don't need his services? Do we have a lot of cash? Why would we want Nonda instead of Mutu? Any reasoning here?



He has some class? Thats great! We are missing some class.

We have not seen Mutu play since last year. How do we know he's not good anymore? You saw him in practice? Big deal, it was probably just an informal kick around anyway.



Yes, and he was caught and served a ban. Now the ban is going to be up, so why shouldn't we give him a chance? I'm still waiting for concrete answers here Rab. If he's training well with Juventus, why shouldn't we give him a chance?




Hmm, I don't see why that should be a reason for denying him an opportunity to play for Juve.

-Why would we need him? - He's 27years old, we need Forwards who are capable of running and dribbling and I don't think we can find this in Mutu.
(Heading,Dribbling,Crosses,Speed etc) we don't find them in Mutu, and Remmber that Mutu is NOT a finisher, His Role is very important to the team and thats why I think we can get better forwards then him.

-I repeat Nonda wasn't my real Target, I just gave you an example of how we can buy a young player talented has a Future with our Club and can stay with us for atleast 7years.

-Do we have alot of Cash?? Thats not my Point, I said that I think Moggi signed Mutu just for Business, If am not Mistaken i've heard many times that there will be exchange, Mutu to Roma with a bit of Cash and Cassano to Juve, This way we don't need to pay 30m to get Cassano or any other player. Thats what I think Moggi is doing.(Hope so)

-Yes, we did see him this year with Romanian NT, and don't get me wrong here, I didn't say Mutu is Finished. Plus what I said about the training stuff has no relation to his form. I know it's not a big deal, i was trying to show you that am very close person and that I know him alot. Anyhow back to the Topic, Mutu simply can't play the same way he was before IMO. Another Point IF Mutu IS gonna play with us then he should probably Replace Zlatan(which I see it Impossible, because he's no where near Zlatan)
So my Suggestion is that we buy a Finisher player talented and young.

Another Point I wouldn't mind Mutu as a bench player like Zalayeta, I think he's okay as a bench player NOT in the 1st 11, NEVER.

-Am not against giving him a chance, But am afraid Keeping Mutu will cause the Club alot of Problems, as the problems already started.another Point, Just remind me who will be the responsible for paying 8m to Chelsea?????

-I admit he was one of the players I've always wished to join us, however, I'D LOVE Adrian Mutu to prove me wrong about everything i stated against him. I would love that, believe me.

 

[JCK]

I hope he will do wonders in the last 2 games in the league so you change your mind about him Rab, because he is a special player but you are just refusing to see it.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


-Why would we need him? - He's 27years old, we need Forwards who are capable of running and dribbling and I don't think we can find this in Mutu.
(Heading,Dribbling,Crosses,Speed etc) we don't find them in Mutu, and Remmber that Mutu is NOT a finisher, His Role is very important to the team and thats why I think we can get better forwards then him.

So Mutu is not known for his quick dribbling, good pace, incisive passing, and very good finishing? Hmm, I wonder why Chelsea spent so much on a player who cannot dribble, cross, or shoot...

Unless you have seen many Juventus training sessions this past winter, I don't know how you can say Mutu isn't capable of the characteristics you listed. Before Mutu met up with Mourinho he was able to do all those things very nicely, and he was just having trouble adjusting to the English game.....or perhaps doing coke that made him struggle. I'm not sure of the time frame or if coke was a factor in the first season. However I do know that Mutu was a top player before he met up with Mourinho and started doing coke, and IMO those great qualities that he posessed will come back over time. There is no question Mutu has the natural talent because we witnessed it ourselves. The question will be whether Mutu has cleared his head from the use of drugs and whether or not Mutu is fit enough to play. If he is fit, the skills will come back.

-I repeat Nonda wasn't my real Target, I just gave you an example of how we can buy a young player talented has a Future with our Club and can stay with us for atleast 7years.

Nonda is a young player? Last time I checked Nonda was 2 years older than Mutu and plagued with persistant injuries..

-Do we have alot of Cash?? Thats not my Point, I said that I think Moggi signed Mutu just for Business, If am not Mistaken i've heard many times that there will be exchange, Mutu to Roma with a bit of Cash and Cassano to Juve, This way we don't need to pay 30m to get Cassano or any other player. Thats what I think Moggi is doing.(Hope so)

Well, your probably right in this respect. However you never know with Moggi, and if Mutu impresses Capello during training sessions we might just keep him. I mean if Mutu regains a lot of form why should we give him up?

-Yes, we did see him this year with Romanian NT, and don't get me wrong here, I didn't say Mutu is Finished. Plus what I said about the training stuff has no relation to his form. I know it's not a big deal, i was trying to show you that am very close person and that I know him alot. Anyhow back to the Topic, Mutu simply can't play the same way he was before IMO. Another Point IF Mutu IS gonna play with us then he should probably Replace Zlatan(which I see it Impossible, because he's no where near Zlatan)
So my Suggestion is that we buy a Finisher player talented and young.

I don't know about that. Yes, both players tend to favor drifting out to the left flank, however both could be used up top and exchange positions frequently. Mutu is more of an incisive player than Zlatan and is a better passer, so I think they could coexist. Perhaps Mutu could be used as a left winger as well, not sure.

Another Point I wouldn't mind Mutu as a bench player like Zalayeta, I think he's okay as a bench player NOT in the 1st 11, NEVER.

If Mutu regains form, why not put him in the first team? We just have to wait and see.

-Am not against giving him a chance, But am afraid Keeping Mutu will cause the Club alot of Problems, as the problems already started.another Point, Just remind me who will be the responsible for paying 8m to Chelsea?????

Not us, that's for sure. And I don't see any problems Mutu has created in his first few months at Juventus. You sound like you're expecting Mutu to be passing around coke at halftime or something..."yo Lilian, take some of this man, it's good stuff." Come on that's nonsense Rab.

-I admit he was one of the players I've always wished to join us, however, I'D LOVE Adrian Mutu to prove me wrong about everything i stated against him. I would love that, believe me.

Yes, and Mutu has been one of my favorite players over the past five years. I loved him when he was at Verona and then lighting Serie A on fire at Parma. I hope he does prove you wrong, and I think he has a good chance of doing so.

 

[- vOnAm -]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Mutu is not Trezeguet, he's not Finisher, Capello should either choose Mutu or Zlatan because they are similar, Gila is the finisher(Bring him Moggi ffs)

I think u got my formation confused, Mutu is the support striker/forward (like Kosovo mentioned) behind Zlatan and Gila; the strikers.