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I also feel "more free" in less developed places for some reason. Maybe because you can get away with more shit if you have a bit of money.
Besides the rules it’s also the financial stress here. There I go to the beach, pay 50 cents to some illegal parking guard which you find everywhere, parking place is a total mess but it doesn’t really matter. Here you’ll go to a perfect parking place, pay a good €8 per hour, with 3 ice creams you’ll pay €15 and traffic is a disaster because everyone runs to the beach when there’s finally some sun. Honestly you’ll come home broke and tired while the sea wasn’t even nice
 

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IliveForJuve

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We third worlders leave for better opportunity.

Not sure Bolivia would be considered exotic though? But I'll let Claudio confirm...



I thought you're getting Spanish citizenship. Man, I'd love to have that. Must be a great place to live compared to the UK and Bolivia.

You'd have to have something good $$$ lined up at home to go back though?

Oh I'm not having any problems with that. Actually, kinda tired of it. The hard part older is the lack of options for something long term.

But when I say the grass is greener, I know if I get into a relationship there'll be times I yearn to be single again.
Well... There ain't no beaches in Bolivia. I guess it's exotic if you like Andean shit but I personally wouldn't live in that region.

I have some £ but I need moar. I should be able to have enough to buy an apartment with just cash by the time I go back.

Yeah, I'm applying for Spanish citizenship but that will likely take a couple of years to get resolved. Spain is another option (I love them bitches) but my family would still be too far away.

Life is easier as an orphan fo' sho.

Edit: gotcha on the grass is greener. No suitable candidates for a man in his 30s? Can't you get a hot 23 year old that hasn't been alpha widowed?
 

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I always think that those big urban environments which you’d find here or in the US are a bit suffocating. My only reference point is the south of Italy where my family is from, things are definitely less developed there and it’s hot as fuck, but I always get that sense of liberty there which I don’t find here.
What you're saying is true for Calabria and Puglia.

Puglia is actually rather well developed these days and is sort of famous for being 'normal' when it comes to administration, housing, hospitals, etc. Combined with the great beaches and lovely architecture it's why it draws so many expats.

Calabria is different. Some parts are definitely remote and you rarely see outsiders. Not sure if it would be wise to live there as an expat. But there are some great (albeit small) beaches with few visitors and for holidays it's awesome.

Campania though definitely has that big urban environment. From Cassino to Naples to Caserta.. Don't get me wrong. The seaside is brilliant. Ischia, Capri, the Costiera Amalfitana.. all great. But man, there are ugly industrial neighbourhoods all over Campania.

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Quetzalcoatl

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Well... There ain't no beaches in Bolivia. I guess it's exotic if you like Andean shit but I personally wouldn't live in that region.

I have some £ but I need moar. I should be able to have enough to buy an apartment with just cash by the time I go back.

Yeah, I'm applying for Spanish citizenship but that will likely take a couple of years to get resolved. Spain is another option (I love them bitches) but my family would still be too far away.

Life is easier as an orphan fo' sho.

Edit: gotcha on the grass is greener. No suitable candidates for a man in his 30s? Can't you get a hot 23 year old that hasn't been alpha widowed?
Ah okay, well it's good that you will have options on where to live.

Hot 23 year olds are nice on paper, but the immaturity gets to you when the fun wears off. Yet all the older hotties are either taken or fucked up lol.
 

IliveForJuve

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Call them man, call them as much as possible. And visit them any chance you get. Not worth regretting this later.
I call them weekly (the timezone difference is a bit shite because I'm going to sleep while they're still working), and I do go home for 6 weeks once a year but it's not enough man. That's why I think I'll be back there in 3-4 years.

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Ah okay, well it's good that you will have options on where to live.

Hot 23 year olds are nice on paper, but the immaturity gets to you when the fun wears off. Yet all the older hotties are either taken or fucked up lol.
You're back on the island right? Selection is no bueno over there? @Osman how's the dating situation over there
 
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What you're saying is true for Calabria and Puglia.

Puglia is actually rather well developed these days and is sort of famous for being 'normal' when it comes to administration, housing, hospitals, etc. Combined with the great beaches and lovely architecture it's why it draws so many expats.

Calabria is different. Some parts are definitely remote and you rarely see outsiders. Not sure if it would be wise to live there as an expat. But there are some great (albeit small) beaches with few visitors and for holidays it's awesome.

Campania though definitely has that big urban environment. From Cassino to Naples to Caserta.. Don't get me wrong. The seaside is brilliant. Ischia, Capri, the Costiera Amalfitana.. all great. But man, there are ugly industrial neighbourhoods all over Campania.

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Yeah I’m talking specifically about Puglia. I’ve been coming there all my life.

Hospitals aren’t that great by the way. The hospital where my grandpa died 9 years ago was in bad condition, in regards to services, my father in law broke his finger about 3 years ago. Ended up waiting hours at the hospital and just went home without help and it healed naturally. Or another fun example about two months ago my wife’s parents were without electricity for a few days because most neighbours didn’t pay their bills, so they decided to turn the electricity for everyone off. Roads are terrible aswel.

Another fun thing that comes to mind are ‘case abusive’, buildings build with no paperwork or something else that’s just wrong. Just those funny/strange things you’d absolutely don’t find here. I almost bought one a year or 5 ago for peanuts, thinking about turning it into a B&B until I heard what exactly was wrong. Now they closed the door and windows with bricks haha

Overal it’s a great region which has much to offer in terms of indeed architecture, but especially food. Hopefully when I’m older I’m able to work a few months per year there, having best of both worlds.
 

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I also feel "more free" in less developed places for some reason. Maybe because you can get away with more shit if you have a bit of money.
If you're experiencing a freedom crisis near the age of 30, you really need to make some changes.

Maybe it's the gf. But the need to feel "free" can be a bit of a flag.

Imagine you're just chilling and then

That was me on the SF Muni 38 Geary bus whenever a rather corpulent woman asked to sit in the seat next to me.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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You're back on the island right? Selection is no bueno over there? @Osman how's the dating situation over there
Yeah, it's slim pickings over here. There is some quality, but it's a small percentage of an already small population.

I mean, I do have picky standards which lessens the pool even more. That's why I think I need to go to Poland or Hungary to find a wife :grin:
 

IliveForJuve

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If you're experiencing a freedom crisis near the age of 30, you really need to make some changes.

Maybe it's the gf. But the need to feel "free" can be a bit of a flag.



That was me on the SF Muni 38 Geary bus whenever a rather corpulent woman asked to sit in the seat next to me.
My current crisis is that I'm bored with my job so I keep procrastinating and then I feel extremely anxious about work piling up and holding up projects. For some reason, after working at the same place for 18-24 months I just get fed up and want something new.

I'd take a pay cut and have my old cushy job at this point if I could though.

I have an interview on Monday so fingers crossed.

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How come Matty boi doesn't have an Italian passport?

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Yeah, it's slim pickings over here. There is some quality, but it's a small percentage of an already small population.

I mean, I do have picky standards which lessens the pool even more. That's why I think I need to go to Poland or Hungary to find a wife :grin:
Aka only wanting the very limited supply of rich white women on the Island.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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How come Matty boi doesn't have an Italian passport?

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Aka only wanting the very limited supply of rich white women on the Island.
I don't think my ancestry is recent enough to be eligible. But I really must look into it properly. I wonder if having a Venezuelan grandparent can get me Spanish one though :think:

And lol nah, I don't want a woman richer than me, that's trouble. And they don't have to be white, just good genetics, although I do want my kids to look like me.
 

IliveForJuve

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I don't think my ancestry is recent enough to be eligible. But I really must look into it properly. I wonder if having a Venezuelan grandparent can get me Spanish one though :think:

And lol nah, I don't want a woman richer than me, that's trouble. And they don't have to be white, just good genetics, although I do want my kids to look like me.
https://www.giambronelaw.com/site/news-articles-press/library/articles/spanish-democratic-memory-law-opportunity-to-acquire-citizenship#:~:text=The Democratic Memory Law which,Spanish citizens who were affected.

Who knows, you might be able too. The Spanish government passed a temporary law which was recently extended until October 2025 that has allowed lots of people to obtain Spanish citizenship.

My case for example: my great grandfather was born in Bolivia to two Spanish parents but he never got Spanish citizenship and therefore my grandma could not claim Spanish citizenship either. However, with this law my grandma was able to become Spanish through her Spanish grandparents, which in turn allows my mother to become Spanish through my granny, and I'll become Spanish through my mum.

If you think you can do something similar, it's 100% worth seeking advice from an immigration lawyer in Spain.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

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https://www.giambronelaw.com/site/news-articles-press/library/articles/spanish-democratic-memory-law-opportunity-to-acquire-citizenship#:~:text=The Democratic Memory Law which,Spanish citizens who were affected.

Who knows, you might be able too. The Spanish government passed a temporary law which was recently extended until October 2025 that has allowed lots of people to obtain Spanish citizenship.

My case for example: my great grandfather was born in Bolivia to two Spanish parents but he never got Spanish citizenship and therefore my grandma could not claim Spanish citizenship either. However, with this law my grandma was able to become Spanish through her Spanish grandparents, which in turn allows my mother to become Spanish through my granny, and turn I'll become Spanish through my mum.

If you think you can do something similar, it's 100% worth seeking advise from an immigration lawyer in Spain.
Gracias, hermano. I'll look into it.
 

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