Seven

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On my campus, once a girl accuses you of rape, you are automatically guilty unless you are can prove your innocence. The guy will be kicked out of the university without trial. A friend of mine even confronted campus security about this issue, and their response was: “girls don’t lie about these things”
That's a human right violation. And a very clear one. No way that holds up in court. Would cost the university a lot of money and would be easy to prove. I'm sure it's a bit more complicated than you claim it to be.

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Seven

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There are a lot of cases in North America where students are expelled from university without ever getting a fair due-process.

Here’s a high profile lawsuit:
https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-sexual-misconduct-rulings-2018-1
That case seems to revolve around the standard of evidence in the disciplinary procedure which is set at a likelihood of 51%, thus being significantly lower than the criminal standard. That in itself does not mean due process was violated though.

You said the girl was believed without any sort of trial whatsoever. That is different. If it would be that simple, clearly due process rights are violated. And there is no way such a rule would ever hold up in court. In fact it would be very likely to cost a North American university millions.

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That case seems to revolve around the standard of evidence in the disciplinary procedure which is set at a likelihood of 51%, thus being significantly lower than the criminal standard. That in itself does not mean due process was violated though.

You said the girl was believed without any sort of trial whatsoever. That is different. If it would be that simple, clearly due process rights are violated. And there is no way such a rule would ever hold up in court. In fact it would be very likely to cost a North American university millions.

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While perhaps not in this specific case. North American Universities have lost multiple court cases for violating due process rights with their Title IX sexual assault/misconduct tribunal hearings.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...against-colleges-punished-them-sexual-assault
 

Seven

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Oh no doubt. But he was misrepresenting a more complex reality.

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:tup:

Here’s a later article on the Yale Basketball Captain suing the university. https://www.thecollegefix.com/yale-...-basketball-team-captains-rape-trial-lawsuit/

Regardless of guilt and innocence in this case and others, Campus culture is pretty fucked up right now, and definitely blurring the lines pretty heavily between consensual and non-consensual sexual encounters.
 

swag

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No, that would still have tremendous subtext in Europe if given by a coworker. Even more so if it was just handsoap and not a gift bag. It would be the equivalent of someone saying your hands are dirty, really. The US might be different, I don't know. But that's how it would be perceived here..
Europeans seem psycho-scary trained to read multiple levels of diabolical subtext.

Best for me to continue the stupid American act here...

Thats stupid. If youre going to go that far into it is it possibly to give anything as a gift in belgium without potential sinister undertones?

If someone gives you a football for christmas does that imply they think you are fat and need to excercise more?
That is kind of the subtext. Where are the lines drawn? You get a sweater, is that because you have a cold heart? You get a bottle wine, is that because you're a lot more enjoyable to be around when you're drunk?

Whatever. I am imagining an episode of Seinfeld where a coworker regifts George a bottle of handsoap and he freaks out because he thinks it has all these undertones about his hygiene when really that coworker was just being cheap.
I could definitely see that.

Swag is love, swag is life
:lol: Sweet. :heart:

I have a new theory about the origins of the original bottle of soap from last year. It is the same brand but i got it from a different person, someone i did not know this time of last year. There was also a gift card to Target attached this time.

My theory is that the original bottle of soap went to the coworker of mine (soapgifter A) and she then took the gift card and regifted to me the soap she didnt want. This second bottle came direct from the source (soapgifter B).

Either way its a shitty thing to do to give someone such a useless gift because then i have to say thank you for what i dont want or im the asshole, i then have to get them a gift and i dont buy such shitty gifts so they will get something better. you should get someone a gift that is at least halfway decent or dont get them anything at all.
I think you're onto something with the regifting angle. That's typically something women might share with each other and someone just jettisoned it on you.

I like the idea of raw water but she might actually drink it.

If she dies from it that would make for some awkward days in our department.
And you can make your own artisan raw water. Start with your toilet.

An 18 year old girl I know apparently was raped by 5 guys she knew (her friends).

They went to a motel to do drugs (booze, coke, MDMA and weed) and things got out of hand.
Not to blame the victim, but how was this ever going to turn out well? Oh well, 18 year old brains I suppose.

Who doesn't love

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Nah but that sucks. They should be castrated
Fast food trash by any other name.

Well, penetration isn't the only way to rape, so that's why castration wouldn't work. And also, I repeat, it's not about "having a penis" but about the morbidity generated by power and domination over the other person. The rapist will continue to feel that pleasure and fascination, even without his genitals, and will do so again in one way or another.


Yes.
I've always had an odd curiosity about that. Digital penetration and penile penetration are considered equivalent. One could potentially be somewhat accidental, the other almost never. But they are equivalent. As they are with a broom handle.

Do you use soap to jack off? That sounds unpleasant
But my junk smells like a fresh pine forest.

Giving gifts in the office is dumb to begin with. I took off the day we were supposed to do that in mine, just to avoid it.
I kinda have to agree with this here. I appreciate the bleeding, generous hearts in the office who want to give. But talk about a clusterf$#k of office hell on execution.

Have any of you bishes bought wood sunglasses before? They look pretty cool.
I have sunglasses made of limestone. :stuckup:

I don't know if it's rape or not, but as a hopefully rational human being there is no way I'd take the account of an intoxicated person as reliable info
Damn straight. How can anybody at a site to get doped up be coherent and reliable enough in a court of law?

On my campus, once a girl accuses you of rape, you are automatically guilty unless you are can prove your innocence. The guy will be kicked out of the university without trial. A friend of mine even confronted campus security about this issue, and their response was: “girls don’t lie about these things”
If I was a girl, that would be an awesome way to get rid of people I don't like.

Is there any first world country where radical feminism isn’t rampant? How are things in Europe? Australia?
Don't worry. Gen Z by way of 4chan is subverting all that shit.
 

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lol that's such a lie no they aren't

The headlines about that are totally misleading. The reason youngsters are supposedly checking conservative under opinions is because the goal posts have shifted, many opinions that were once centrist in the eyes of mainstream are now considered conservative. They are not at all that way, just the metric for what is conservative is a lot lower because of such a shift to the left.
 

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I tried a drink that someone gave me the other day at work called FocusAid. I guess its an alternative to getting juiced on Energy Drinks. Has nootropics, vitamin B, green Tea extract .

Seemed to work pretty well. Definitely felt very focused despite the boring nature of my job.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I tried a drink that someone gave me the other day at work called FocusAid. I guess its an alternative to getting juiced on Energy Drinks. Has nootropics, vitamin B, green Tea extract .

Seemed to work pretty well. Definitely felt very focused despite the boring nature of my job.
Ads are just getting better all the time. I must say, the sheer effort of creating an entire internet persona, have it post for years to then finally come up with the commercial message is damn impressive.

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