What Are You Doing Right Now? (270 Viewers)

[Ocelot]

Since when did you start caring? Oh man, people change here!

I always cared, just not about every poster

 

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[IliveForJuve]

How can you have fun when you're a slave and have no time?

What's your goal in life? And does this job contribute towards that goal?

 

[Enron]

@Enron, can I get unbanned from the mod thread? I already served a 3 week ban

I didn't ban you but I'll see what I can do.

 

[IliveForJuve]

I didn't ban you but I'll see what I can do.

I know you didn't but you are my fave mod

Thanks.

 

[Nomuken]

@Enron, can I get unbanned from the mod thread? I already served a 3 week ban

C'mon says the guy who nudged X To ban me from GOT thread and it's been WAY more than three weeks and the season is already over and I still can't get in.

Get used to it

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Put in your time until you find a more enjoyable / flexible position

Cha-ching!

 

[IliveForJuve]

C'mon says the guy who nudged X To ban me from GOT thread and it's been WAY more than three weeks and the season is already over and I still can't get in.

Get used to it

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But you were throwing spoilers everywhere. Something needed to be done.

You should be allowed back in, though. It's been a long time.

 

[Nomuken]

 

[Martin]

I started working yesterday. It's still without a contract but apparently they wanna keep me there.

Good luck with it! Hopefully they offer something good and you nail it like a line of coke.

Good luck with the job! Where do you work now?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This made me lol

You mean just being smart or having degrees doesnt entitle you to a great salary?


FYI half the world thinks that way

 

[IliveForJuve]

You mean just being smart or having degrees doesnt entitle you to a great salary?


FYI half the world thinks that way

I never said I wanted a big salary though. But I do have experience doing sophisticated work for multinational companies so I would expect at least a decent salary for a young professional.

I value my work but I'm careful not to overrate it.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I never said I wanted a big salary though. But I do have experience doing sophisticated work for multinational companies so I would expect at least a decent salary for a young professional.

I value my work but I'm careful not to overrate it.

The only value you work has in a concrete sense is the money it generates, so your salary should allign with that

 

[Seven]

The only value you work has in a concrete sense is the money it generates, so your salary should allign with that

That's a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Also, it's plainly not true.

On the one hand I have cases that make it easy for me to calculate my value. Let's say my client is being sued for 15,000€ and I make it go away, I've just 'made' him 15,000€.

But let's say that same client is now being charged with murder. He didn't do it and after trial he's declared not guilty. How much has my contribution 'made' him? Have I made him the equivalent of 30 yearly wages (30 years in prison is Belgium's max)? Or have I generated nothing at all?

And that's just being a lawyer.

Same shit goes for doctors. How much money does a doctor who performs a life saving, yet pretty standard surgery, generate?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That's a pretty problematic way of looking at things. Also, it's plainly not true.

On the one hand I have cases that make it easy for me to calculate my value. Let's say my client is being sued for 15,000€ and I make it go away, I've just 'made' him 15,000€.

But let's say that same client is now being charged with murder. He didn't do it and after trial he's declared not guilty. How much has my contribution 'made' him? Have I made him the equivalent of 30 yearly wages (30 years in prison is Belgium's max)? Or have I generated nothing at all?

And that's just being a lawyer.

Same shit goes for doctors. How much money does a doctor who performs a life saving, yet pretty standard surgery, generate?

I have no idea how what i said relates to the above

 

[Seven]

I have no idea how what i said relates to the above

You state that the only value your work has in a concrete sense is the money it generates. Furthermore your salary should reflect that concrete value in your opinion.

That statement is something I do not agree with.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You state that the only value your work has in a concrete sense is the money it generates. Furthermore your salary should reflect that concrete value in your opinion.

That statement is something I do not agree with.

I get that part what i don't get is the arguments you present, in the crudest way possible i ran a lemonade stand, 40% of my revenue goes to operations, for you to make 6 figures you've got to squeeze a whole lot of lemonade. Lawyers is even easier a junior lawyer will do the garbage work which is billed into the final fee.

 

[Seven]

I get that part what i don't get is the arguments you present, in the crudest way possible i ran a lemonade stand, 40% of my revenue goes to operations, for you to make 6 figures you've got to squeeze a whole lot of lemonade. Lawyers is even easier a junior lawyer will do the garbage work which is billed into the final fee.

Yes, but a fee isn't money that is being generated. It's what I deem to be the value of my work. Unless of course you'd say that my work is worth whatever the market is willing to pay me.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yes, but a fee isn't money that is being generated. It's what I deem to be the value of my work. Unless of course you'd say that my work is worth whatever the market is willing to pay me.

That goes without saying

 

[Seven]

That goes without saying

Hmm.. I get what you're saying. I'd say that's not really a common viewpoint in Europe .

 

[Ocelot]

But if it's entirely dependent on the market, it's only about demand & supply, not about value creation. There is a relation between the two of course, but it's decidedly not the same.

And not that that is how it works in practice anyways, nor a way that can feasibly work.