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Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Hypothetical situation. Let's say that I, at the age of 47, am suddenly afflicted with ALS. And given my age and previous health issues, this will cause my body to deteriorate much faster. Say, I have at most 18 months to live, and during those 18 months I will quickly become a shell of my former self, burden my wife and family with the financial and emotional challenges of what this disease will become, and I will no longer have the capacity to do anything. There is no cure, and the fatality rate is 100%. I am absolutely guaranteed that I am going to die.


I say "Fuck it." I have life insurance, I have a pension, a 401K, that can all go towards helping my wife to not only pay off all of our bills, but to help secure a financial future for her and my son. Funds that would have otherwise been used to try and keep me comfortable in a no-win situation.

All I would need to do is end my life. Is that selfish? Keeping in mind that I did not choose to contract ALS, but Aaron Hernandez chose to commit those violent acts. And for someone who is a Catholic and knows all too well about the sin of suicide and how you don't go to heaven. Well I would rather be in hell than have my wife and son go through the same thing on earth if that is what it took.

Edit- And for the record, no, this is not an announcement that I have ALS. I was just trying to use that crippling disease as an example
Cowardice is selfishness, you not wanting to see images of your daughter suffering is selfishness. A true selfless act is completely detached from the self, there is no my/me in it. I know easier said than done, but truth is we are selfish 99.99% of the time it is just that some have a more sophisticated expression of that selfishness.
 

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L'autista
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Cowardice is selfishness, you not wanting to see images of your daughter suffering is selfishness. A true selfless act is completely detached from the self, there is no my/me in it. I know easier said than done, but truth is we are selfish 99.99% of the time it is just that some have a more sophisticated expression of that selfishness.
I was actually kind of thinking the same myself. How often are any of us really not selfish? It's typically the standard mode of operation.
 

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I have nothing to do half the time im at work but cant use my computer for non work related things. Anyone know good, addictive phone games that i can dump hours into?

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Zir? Okay that's a new one. lol
::lol3:: From Urban Dictionary:

zir

a gender neutral pronoun declaring possessive much like him or her. A transgender person would use said pronoun if their gender identity was neither or both.

Dude 1: Whose stuff is that.
Dude 2: Zir's stuff. Adrian.

#genderneutral#transgender#agendered#gender#neither
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king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Hypothetical situation. Let's say that I, at the age of 47, am suddenly afflicted with ALS. And given my age and previous health issues, this will cause my body to deteriorate much faster. Say, I have at most 18 months to live, and during those 18 months I will quickly become a shell of my former self, burden my wife and family with the financial and emotional challenges of what this disease will become, and I will no longer have the capacity to do anything. There is no cure, and the fatality rate is 100%. I am absolutely guaranteed that I am going to die.


I say "Fuck it." I have life insurance, I have a pension, a 401K, that can all go towards helping my wife to not only pay off all of our bills, but to help secure a financial future for her and my son. Funds that would have otherwise been used to try and keep me comfortable in a no-win situation.

All I would need to do is end my life. Is that selfish? Keeping in mind that I did not choose to contract ALS, but Aaron Hernandez chose to commit those violent acts. And for someone who is a Catholic and knows all too well about the sin of suicide and how you don't go to heaven. Well I would rather be in hell than have my wife and son go through the same thing on earth if that is what it took.

Edit- And for the record, no, this is not an announcement that I have ALS. I was just trying to use that crippling disease as an example
I'm all for euthanasia :D The way you describe it is an extreme case, which I empathize with, as I do with pretty much everyone who kills themselves. I don't use selfishness in a negative way here. If one thinks taking his or her life is an end to his or her suffering, who am I to say they shouldn't be thinking that way when I haven't lived their life and have no clue about why they think they can't keep going. Taking one's own life is a major decision, it's scary and irrevrsible, so when one does it there's absolutely no way for me or anyone else for that matter to say whether the decision was justified or not. All I was trying to say in my previous posts was that suicide is all about the "self", you can't stand the pain anymore, you can't fight anymore, you are tired, you have no reason (in your mind) or motivation to be alive, so it's all about you. There's no sleflessness in that.

Compare it to when someone risks his life to save a stranger's life; that's pure selflessness (not every act should be that extreme to be called selfless though but the case I talked about is extremely rare because there's no expectation for reciprocity in that situation).

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Just broke things off with the girl I had been dating. Now I'm sipping whiskey at the hotel bar looking for the next one.
Did you grow bored of her? :D

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I was actually kind of thinking the same myself. How often are any of us really not selfish? It's typically the standard mode of operation.
Almost never. I've realized recently [:D] that even my most "sincere" (in my mind) deeds that I thought were completely selfless were driven by self-enhancement motivations (I don't have a better term to describe it with).

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I find it quite disturbing that you keep reading that website :confused:
 

Fr3sh

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I ran into my ex from 5 years ago n im drunk, i got kicked out of the bar beacuse i left smoke area to talk to her....fack i honestly wish i havent seeen her man...shit i really do i wish i never see her again everytime i see her it rips me apart. i honestly neverloved any woman like i loved her i wish i wasnt a pussy n bokre up with her becausei was scared of getting my hartt brken by her..was scared of her
honestly is my biggest regret in mt life

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c la vie...on survie

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hope i never fall in love forreal...i dont have the heart forit
 

Gep

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Jun 12, 2005
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I ran into my ex from 5 years ago n im drunk, i got kicked out of the bar beacuse i left smoke area to talk to her....fack i honestly wish i havent seeen her man...$#@! i really do i wish i never see her again everytime i see her it rips me apart. i honestly neverloved any woman like i loved her i wish i wasnt a pussy n bokre up with her becausei was scared of getting my hartt brken by her..was scared of her
honestly is my biggest regret in mt life

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c la vie...on survie

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hope i never fall in love forreal...i dont have the heart forit

You have all the love you need right here. :bandwagon:
 

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