What Are You Doing Right Now? (171 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

This is an absolutely valid point, and is why I find it hard to take sides on this. I feel more unsafe when I'm walking home and am alone on the street with a suspicious black (than white) person and this fear (regardless of how justified it is) I have developed after only three years of living in the US and based on personal experience so I can only imagine what it should be like for a police officer. But again, we are responsive to the situation and circumstances. I may get a cold chill when I find myself alone with a suspicious person on the street, but I'll feel a lot safer when I'm with a friend or when the neighborhood is safe. This has to be the case and even more so for a police officer because another individual's life is in his hands. The natural instinct developed throughout years of knowledge and experience accumulation on how to deal with gangs, criminals etc should not carry over into much simpler and smaller in scope instances. In quite a few of these cases what police did was borderline murder.

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This is a very silly argument though. First, if there are bad cops and good cops, there are blacks who want and those who don't want to "riot" or be violent. Second, we are talking about two different and unrelated causes for these deaths, which makes the "number" of people killed in each case irrelevant. It's like saying we shouldn't be talking about child abuse because what about a much greater number of children who die in accidents.

I don't think i made it clear enough that i am not defending these latest incidents, but rather the lynch mob mentality and backlash against cops in general. Crowds are a funny animal i tell ya.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Aye yo, sounds like shit's poppin off. What's going on??

 

[ZoSo]

This is a very silly argument though. First, if there are bad cops and good cops, there are blacks who want and those who don't want to "riot" or be violent. Second, we are talking about two different and unrelated causes for these deaths, which makes the "number" of people killed in each case irrelevant. It's like saying we shouldn't be talking about child abuse because what about a much greater number of children who die in accidents.

There's nothing silly about it

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

Black people make up 12% of the population, white people 62% yet black people are much more likely to do certain crimes like murder. They are responsible for more than 50% of murders.

The number of blacks killed by police is not out of the ordinary when you look at how many are killed compared to the crimes committed

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...un/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

It's just so obviously a victim card
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Thousands of black people are killed by other black people every year yet these BLM protesters say nothing about that and prefer to focus on the minority of blacks killed who were killed by police.

Then let's not forget that it's very ironic, these BLM protestors say it's racism, yet they are pretty much doing the exact same thing to police officers (generalisation against a certain group) when there are all sorts of reasons why people are killed by police officers. Genuine danger, heat of the moment actions, probably some (maybe a small amount, who knows) motivated by race and more. The whole thing is just blown out of proportion to play a victim card and they are ignoring thousands of other deaths to suit their agenda. If they really cared about black lives they would try to fix the problems in their own community first instead of complaining about a much smaller percentage of people killed by police.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't think i made it clear enough that i am not defending these latest incidents, but rather the lynch mob mentality and backlash against cops in general. Crowds are a funny animal i tell ya.

The cops generally get off scot-free though, don't they?

 

[king Ale]

I don't think i made it clear enough that i am not defending these latest incidents, but rather the lynch mob mentality and backlash against cops in general. Crowds are a funny animal i tell ya.

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[Mohad]

Black people commit proportionately more crime, two black people get killed by police and they like to riot yet what about the tens/hundreds that get killed by other blacks every week? It's just a victim card

There's nothing silly about it

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

Black people make up 12% of the population, white people 62% yet black people are much more likely to do certain crimes like murder. They are responsible for more than 50% of murders.

The number of blacks killed by police is not out of the ordinary when you look at how many are killed compared to the crimes committed

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...un/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

It's just so obviously a victim card
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Thousands of black people are killed by other black people every year yet these BLM protesters say nothing about that and prefer to focus on the minority of blacks killed who were killed by police.

Then let's not forget that it's very ironic, these BLM protestors say it's racism, yet they are pretty much doing the exact same thing to police officers (generalisation against a certain group) when there are all sorts of reasons why people are killed by police officers. Genuine danger, heat of the moment actions, probably some (maybe a small amount, who knows) motivated by race and more. The whole thing is just blown out of proportion to play a victim card and they are ignoring thousands of other deaths to suit their agenda. If they really cared about black lives they would try to fix the problems in their own community first instead of complaining about a much smaller percentage of people killed by police.

You are taking it to another level.

Let's just say that the black people in America are very sensitive and the reason is obvious if we open the history book. Fix your own problems before looking at others.

 

[ZoSo]

You are taking it to another level.

Let's just say that the black people in America are very sensitive and the reason is obvious if we open the history book. Fix your own problems before looking at others.

Since when are facts another level?

 

[Mohad]

Since where are facts another level?

Clearly you are being one sided.

 

[ZoSo]

Clearly you are being one sided.

Not really, there are plenty of issues with cops, probably poor training, probably there are are some who are racist, but to say it's all the fault of the police and blacks have done nothing wrong is ludicrous. If anything, the facts point to the opposite.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Yeah I am aware of that, but my point is if I was a black American I would be worried and feel ashamed at the same time, because if you think about it gangs mostly comes from black community. I could be wrong but you won't get shot if you follow the orders.

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Damn....

Hmm. What religion do this all the time..?

 

[Hængebøffer]

And there's too many cops who can't control the power. At some point people will fight back.

 

[JBF]

Oh si existential crisis mode

More or less

Holy crap, you're alive. Hello there

Hola Dus, how've you been? Found your way to employment by now I presume?

 

[.zero]

Glad to have several experts on topics like race relations, gun control, and the U.S. all here in one place.

#Blessed

 

[Hængebøffer]

Glad to have several experts on topics like race relations, gun control, and the U.S. all here in one place.

#Blessed

At your service. Soon we'll teach you how to make burgers.

 

[.zero]

I like burgers

 

[Hængebøffer]

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[Mohad]

Hmm. What religion do this all the time..?

Your point?

 

[Hængebøffer]

Your point?

My point is the consensus among some posters here that black people should stop complaining, but Muslims are the victims. Their situations are exactly the same.

 

[.zero]

I don't follow

 

[Mohad]

My point is the consensus among some posters here that black people should stop complaining, but Muslims are the victims. Their situations are exactly the same.

Lol no it is not. And before we start this conversation, do you get time to read what happens in the middle east countries? Or more specifically what happens in Saudi Arabia?