ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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This #blacklivesmatter hashtag is getting on my nerves, why not say human lives matter instead. It's sad how the black people in the US always use the victim card and turn into a race war.
What Aaron said. You're more likely to get shot by a cop for no reason if you're black.
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
6,695
To their defense, they do get shot more often than white people.
What Aaron said. You're more likely to get shot by a cop for no reason if you're black.
Yeah I am aware of that, but my point is if I was a black American I would be worried and feel ashamed at the same time, because if you think about it gangs mostly comes from black community. I could be wrong but you won't get shot if you follow the orders.

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Dallas just lost like 10 cops due to sniper fire.
Damn....
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Yeah I am aware of that, but my point is if I was a black American I would be worried and feel ashamed at the same time, because if you think about it gangs mostly comes from black community. I could be wrong but you won't get shot if you follow the orders.
Lol you world get roasted so hard for holding this view in America, but i actually agree with you, so long as the 'gangsta' culture persists this will keep happening, because cops are not robots and will a lot of times act on instinct developed over years of facing the same shit.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Dallas just lost like 10 cops due to sniper fire.
10 dead? :shocked:

Lol you world get roasted so hard for holding this view in America, but i actually agree with you, so long as the 'gangsta' culture persists this will keep happening, because cops are not robots and will a lot of times act on instinct developed over years of facing the same shit.
The Minnesota case was easily police incompetence though. Or the Eric Garner case as another example. Cops are not robots but they are supposed to have a more reasonable panic threshold than do normal people (they should be trained that way). I know fear is critical in helping them do their job but shooting at the first and slightest perception of danger is what you and I will do. A police officer has to be better than that.

I'm no fan of playing the victim card, whoever the victim is, but as an outsider I feel the US does have a problem with training of its police force.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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10 dead? :shocked:



The Minnesota case was easily police incompetence though. Or the Eric Garner case as another example. Cops are not robots but they are supposed to have a more reasonable panic threshold than do normal people (they should be trained that way). I know fear is critical in helping them do their job but shooting at the first and slightest perception of danger is what you and I will do. A police officer has to be better than that.

I'm no fan of playing the victim card, whoever the victim is, but as an outsider I feel the US does have a problem with training of its police force.
11 shot. 4 confirmed dead
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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10 dead? :shocked:



The Minnesota case was easily police incompetence though. Or the Eric Garner case as another example. Cops are not robots but they are supposed to have a more reasonable panic threshold than do normal people (they should be trained that way). I know fear is critical in helping them do their job but shooting at the first and slightest perception of danger is what you and I will do. A police officer has to be better than that.

I'm no fan of playing the victim card, whoever the victim is, but as an outsider I feel the US does have a problem with training of its police force.
Hoori, what we lack most is the cop perspective, there is no doubt that there are incompetent cops out there who will sully the name of most cops just like there are sexually frustrated Muslims out there who will do the same for the rest of the Muslims. Neither you nor i have been cops in a hot urban neighborhood, but I did work in one for a year, one of the most if not the most dangerous in the nation. And what i always perceived as problematic is the lack of cops coming from that community you see the hood has its own rules, language, basically a completely different world. No matter how honest the cop he will always be seen as the enemy and will be targeted if his guard is down.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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He had to settle for the taliban
:lol: Safety school for suicide bombers.

Today sucks. I hate being home sick.
Order up some putas, señor. Don't they have apps for that in Mexico now?

To their defense, they do get shot more often than white people.
Unless if you're in Montana, West Virginia or Wyoming where most perpetrators and victims of deadly force are white -- and the police still inordinately kill them too.

Yeah I am aware of that, but my point is if I was a black American I would be worried and feel ashamed at the same time, because if you think about it gangs mostly comes from black community. I could be wrong but you won't get shot if you follow the orders.
Kinda like one summary of the gun control debate put it: the urban liberals want gun control to protect them from other urban liberals. The conservatives want guns to protect themselves from the urban liberals.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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:lol: Safety school for suicide bombers.



Order up some putas, señor. Don't they have apps for that in Mexico now?



Unless if you're in Montana, West Virginia or Wyoming where most perpetrators and victims of deadly force are white -- and the police still inordinately kill them too.



Kinda like one summary of the gun control debate put it: the urban liberals want gun control to protect them from other urban liberals. The conservatives want guns to protect themselves from the urban liberals.
I like your style, kid
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
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Hoori, what we lack most is the cop perspective, there is no doubt that there are incompetent cops out there who will sully the name of most cops just like there are sexually frustrated Muslims out there who will do the same for the rest of the Muslims. Neither you nor i have been cops in a hot urban neighborhood, but I did work in one for a year, one of the most if not the most dangerous in the nation. And what i always perceived as problematic is the lack of cops coming from that community you see the hood has its own rules, language, basically a completely different world. No matter how honest the cop he will always be seen as the enemy and will be targeted if his guard is down.
You said it better, sir :tup:

I can feel how difficult it is to send such message to the black celebs who keeps playing the victim card in the social media, causing only more troubles.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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You said it better, sir :tup:

I can feel how difficult it is to send such message to the black celebs who keeps playing the victim card in the social media, causing only more troubles.
I don't mind Black Lives Matter. But I do mind when a bunch of BLMers grandstand at a gay pride parade to hijack the agenda and make it about them instead... f* the queers.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,836
You said it better, sir :tup:

I can feel how difficult it is to send such message to the black celebs who keeps playing the victim card in the social media, causing only more troubles.
They are doing it because it gives them cred, or rather of they don't do it they are labeled as sell outs,vicious cycle. Funny enough or not funny depending on where your stand in this debate , the only black celeb who called it like it is is bill Cosby.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
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To their defense, they do get shot more often than white people.
Black people commit proportionately more crime, two black people get killed by police and they like to riot yet what about the tens/hundreds that get killed by other blacks every week? It's just a victim card
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Hoori, what we lack most is the cop perspective, there is no doubt that there are incompetent cops out there who will sully the name of most cops just like there are sexually frustrated Muslims out there who will do the same for the rest of the Muslims. Neither you nor i have been cops in a hot urban neighborhood, but I did work in one for a year, one of the most if not the most dangerous in the nation. And what i always perceived as problematic is the lack of cops coming from that community you see the hood has its own rules, language, basically a completely different world. No matter how honest the cop he will always be seen as the enemy and will be targeted if his guard is down.
This is an absolutely valid point, and is why I find it hard to take sides on this. I feel more unsafe when I'm walking home and am alone on the street with a suspicious black (than white) person and this fear (regardless of how justified it is) I have developed after only three years of living in the US and based on personal experience so I can only imagine what it should be like for a police officer. But again, we are responsive to the situation and circumstances. I may get a cold chill when I find myself alone with a suspicious person on the street, but I'll feel a lot safer when I'm with a friend or when the neighborhood is safe. This has to be the case and even more so for a police officer because another individual's life is in his hands. The natural instinct developed throughout years of knowledge and experience accumulation on how to deal with gangs, criminals etc should not carry over into much simpler and smaller in scope instances. In quite a few of these cases what police did was borderline murder.

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Black people commit proportionately more crime, two black people get killed by police and they like to riot yet what about the tens/hundreds that get killed by other blacks every week? It's just a victim card
This is a very silly argument though. First, if there are bad cops and good cops, there are blacks who want and those who don't want to "riot" or be violent. Second, we are talking about two different and unrelated causes for these deaths, which makes the "number" of people killed in each case irrelevant. It's like saying we shouldn't be talking about child abuse because what about a much greater number of children who die in accidents.
 

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