Apr 15, 2006
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Confession time.

I'm an A student at law, and to work at the big firms you need B+ average. So formally I'm equipped. But I wasn't able to give a good enough impression in the interviews. I said a bunch of things I suppose they expected me to say, and overall I'm probably just too shy and don't value myself highly enough. So, long story short: I failed. I'm now working in a government job (have been for a year now) which requires C average, and which doesn't pay well enough. I feel like a big failure. I did everything right in school, but I'm just not reaping the rewards yet.

wat do

kill mself or push on

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@Seven
Can you give it another chance? Probably at another firm?
 

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Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Is there a reason you have to work in big law?
Well, I know I would get "whipped" alot more than I do now, in big law. To tell you the truth, my current job is amazing socially and it provides me with a lot of free time, so it's not without it's benefits. But I'm currently on a personal mission to save up enough capital (I need 500K NOK) to get a big enough mortgage to buy my own apartment in the city, which I would be able to do much faster if I worked in big law. Also, my highest grades from law school were in the fields of contracts and corporate, so I'm definitely interested in this line of work. Life would probably be more hellish, though, at a big firm, as I would get bitchslapped and buttfucked every single day by the partners and the rest of the sharks present there, but it's still something I wanna go through to reach my personal goals.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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@Seven what are you doing currently, btw?

Me, I work in immigration law. I do like it, but sometimes I wish I was on "the other side", not having to be the government case worker who rejects their case but rather the attorney who tries to push it through the system.

I do grant some applications, though :touched:

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Can you give it another chance? Probably at another firm?
Guess so. Just need to summon the guts to apply again
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Confession time.

I'm an A student at law, and to work at the big firms you need B+ average. So formally I'm equipped. But I wasn't able to give a good enough impression in the interviews. I said a bunch of things I suppose they expected me to say, and overall I'm probably just too shy and don't value myself highly enough. So, long story short: I failed. I'm now working in a government job (have been for a year now) which requires C average, and which doesn't pay well enough. I feel like a big failure. I did everything right in school, but I'm just not reaping the rewards yet.

wat do

kill mself or push on

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@Seven
A. Figure out exactly why you failed
B. Find out where your future colleagues work
C. Find out what impresses them(probably a pure connect)
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Well, I know I would get "whipped" alot more than I do now, in big law. To tell you the truth, my current job is amazing socially and it provides me with a lot of free time, so it's not without it's benefits. But I'm currently on a personal mission to save up enough capital (I need 500K NOK) to get a big enough mortgage to buy my own apartment in the city, which I would be able to do much faster if I worked in big law. Also, my highest grades from law school were in the fields of contracts and corporate, so I'm definitely interested in this line of work. Life would probably be more hellish, though, at a big firm, as I would get bitchslapped and buttfucked every single day by the partners and the rest of the sharks present there, but it's still something I wanna go through to reach my personal goals.
Sounds like you got a pretty good gig. Why is it an important goal of yours to work at a big firm? It sounds like you're pretty happy where you are (despite the lower salary) and that getting a job at a big firm is more about prestige than anything else.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Sounds like you got a pretty good gig. Why is it an important goal of yours to work at a big firm? It sounds like you're pretty happy where you are (despite the lower salary) and that getting a job at a big firm is more about prestige than anything else.
I suppose the "prestige" does come with it (not that anyone cares, anyway, so this aspect is worthless), but the number one reason for me is the higher salary.

Oh Völler. My beloved, adorable Völler (whom I am better than, at Haxball). Perhaps money isn't everything, like you suggest.

:kiss:

: kiss :
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
@Seven what are you doing currently, btw?

Me, I work in immigration law. I do like it, but sometimes I wish I was on "the other side", not having to be the government case worker who rejects their case but rather the attorney who tries to push it through the system.

I do grant some applications, though :touched:

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Guess so. Just need to summon the guts to apply again
I work as a lawyer for a small law firm (6 lawyers).

We do a lot of insurance law and a bit of criminal law. I tend to do the cases that have an international element to them. Belgian involved in a traffic accident in Sweden or vice versa for example.

I also help asylum seekers with their procedures.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Well, I know I would get "whipped" alot more than I do now, in big law. To tell you the truth, my current job is amazing socially and it provides me with a lot of free time, so it's not without it's benefits. But I'm currently on a personal mission to save up enough capital (I need 500K NOK) to get a big enough mortgage to buy my own apartment in the city, which I would be able to do much faster if I worked in big law. Also, my highest grades from law school were in the fields of contracts and corporate, so I'm definitely interested in this line of work. Life would probably be more hellish, though, at a big firm, as I would get bitchslapped and buttfucked every single day by the partners and the rest of the sharks present there, but it's still something I wanna go through to reach my personal goals.
If you need the money you can't go down the better call Saul route I guess.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
I suppose the "prestige" does come with it (not that anyone cares, anyway, so this aspect is worthless), but the number one reason for me is the higher salary.

Oh Völler. My beloved, adorable Völler (whom I am better than, at Haxball). Perhaps money isn't everything, like you suggest.

:kiss:

: kiss :
It sounds like the big firm job comes with a lot of hassle. If it's worth the higher salary or not, I wouldn't know. I guess it depends on the salary and how troublesome it is. :D
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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I work as a lawyer for a small law firm (6 lawyers).

We do a lot of insurance law and a bit of criminal law. I tend to do the cases that have an international element to them. Belgian involved in a traffic accident in Sweden or vice versa for example.

I also help asylum seekers with their procedures.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn A0001 met Tapatalk
Cool stuff. Wrote my thesis on criminal law, love it. And you are on that "other side" (the right one, the fun one), as opposed to working for the government. I do envy that!

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It sounds like the big firm job comes with a lot of hassle. If it's worth the higher salary or not, I wouldn't know. I guess it depends on the salary and how troublesome it is. :D
Well, in my current job my saving plan (to get what I want) takes 5 years. In corporate, it would take 3. So it's not like I deserve pity or anything.

Staying where I'm put has it's benefits too, cause I get to enjoy life alot more, even if it means my saving plan takes more time. Damn I feel disgusting now, with my first world probz. Im gonna go take a shower
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Well, in my current job my saving plan (to get what I want) takes 5 years. In corporate, it would take 3. So it's not like I deserve pity or anything.

Staying where I'm put has it's benefits too, cause I get to enjoy life alot more, even if it means my saving plan takes more time. Damn I feel disgusting now, with my first world probz. Im gonna go take a shower
Yeah, shut the fuck up. :tup:
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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Cool stuff. Wrote my thesis on criminal law, love it. And you are on that "other side" (the right one, the fun one), as opposed to working for the government. I do envy that!

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Well, in my current job my saving plan (to get what I want) takes 5 years. In corporate, it would take 3. So it's not like I deserve pity or anything.

Staying where I'm put has it's benefits too, cause I get to enjoy life alot more, even if it means my saving plan takes more time. Damn I feel disgusting now, with my first world probz. Im gonna go take a shower
I quit big law in order to join a smaller firm. Loved the small firm life but I eventually went back to big law and sometimes, when it's too stressful, I regret it.

But the amount of stuff I learned in big law is something I'm grateful for.

Now I gotta taste the in-house life and see how it goes!
 

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Sep 23, 2003
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Well, I know I would get "whipped" alot more than I do now, in big law. To tell you the truth, my current job is amazing socially and it provides me with a lot of free time, so it's not without it's benefits. But I'm currently on a personal mission to save up enough capital (I need 500K NOK) to get a big enough mortgage to buy my own apartment in the city, which I would be able to do much faster if I worked in big law. Also, my highest grades from law school were in the fields of contracts and corporate, so I'm definitely interested in this line of work. Life would probably be more hellish, though, at a big firm, as I would get bitchslapped and buttfucked every single day by the partners and the rest of the sharks present there, but it's still something I wanna go through to reach my personal goals.
Other than needing cash, it sounds like a pretty decent gig. Maybe you can do some work on the side to make up the extra cash where you're more in command and control and not some big firm that needs you to lick boots and take it with a smile on a relentless beat where you'd have absolutely zero time for outside work.

A. Figure out exactly why you failed
B. Find out where your future colleagues work
C. Find out what impresses them(probably a pure connect)
:tup:

It sounds like the big firm job comes with a lot of hassle. If it's worth the higher salary or not, I wouldn't know. I guess it depends on the salary and how troublesome it is. :D
There are times in a career where it helps to bust your ballz at a name-brand, prestigious institution and put up with a lot of crap to a) collect cheddar, and b) quit to later leverage the f'ing crap out of it in your future career endeavors. Depends on whether you want that slog.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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I quit big law in order to join a smaller firm. Loved the small firm life but I eventually went back to big law and sometimes, when it's too stressful, I regret it.

But the amount of stuff I learned in big law is something I'm grateful for.

Now I gotta taste the in-house life and see how it goes!
Bet you learnt alot, indeed. Apart from the slavery aspect, one of the big 'draws' to start working in such a place is definitely the steep learning curve and the vast amount of experience I'd attain from it.

Other than needing cash, it sounds like a pretty decent gig. Maybe you can do some work on the side to make up the extra cash where you're more in command and control and not some big firm that needs you to lick boots and take it with a smile on a relentless beat where you'd have absolutely zero time for outside work.
Good advice :tup:

There are times in a career where it helps to bust your ballz at a name-brand, prestigious institution and put up with a lot of crap to a) collect cheddar, and b) quit to later leverage the f'ing crap out of it in your future career endeavors. Depends on whether you want that slog.
Exactly the way I've been thinking of late.

Have you taken a similar path before in your career, btw? And would you say it's worth it?
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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Well, I know I would get "whipped" alot more than I do now, in big law. To tell you the truth, my current job is amazing socially and it provides me with a lot of free time, so it's not without it's benefits. But I'm currently on a personal mission to save up enough capital (I need 500K NOK) to get a big enough mortgage to buy my own apartment in the city, which I would be able to do much faster if I worked in big law. Also, my highest grades from law school were in the fields of contracts and corporate, so I'm definitely interested in this line of work. Life would probably be more hellish, though, at a big firm, as I would get bitchslapped and buttfucked every single day by the partners and the rest of the sharks present there, but it's still something I wanna go through to reach my personal goals.
Just keep sailing bro. Shark tank is not worth it. I've gone through similar experience in the engineering field. Ended up not giving a single fuck :D
 

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