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But what I don't understand is how could anyone keep getting away with pouring billions of dollars into decades of coffee-related medical research for conflicting and insignificant study after weekly conflicting and insignificant study -- and we're still beating this dead horse. We keep dumping money on this research like we're trying to cure cancer, and all we've learned is that coffee is pretty much irrelevant to our health save for a 0.000003% probability of increased/decreased this or that.

That kind of return on investment is worse than the Vietnam War for America.

This research is a funded boondoggle... the media keeps reporting it, readers keep eating these stories up, so funders keep funding it to get their studies and teams in the public eye, and the science behind it is a complete waste and useless information. A criminal investigation really ought to be put on this. It's a crime that we only have this much to show for it for the billions of research hours wasted on coffee.
 

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Martin

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swag said:
But what I don't understand is how could anyone keep getting away with pouring billions of dollars into decades of coffee-related medical research for conflicting and insignificant study after weekly conflicting and insignificant study -- and we're still beating this dead horse. We keep dumping money on this research like we're trying to cure cancer, and all we've learned is that coffee is pretty much irrelevant to our health save for a 0.000003% probability of increased/decreased this or that.

That kind of return on investment is worse than the Vietnam War for America.

This research is a funded boondoggle... the media keeps reporting it, readers keep eating these stories up, so funders keep funding it to get their studies and teams in the public eye, and the science behind it is a complete waste and useless information. A criminal investigation really ought to be put on this. It's a crime that we only have this much to show for it for the billions of research hours wasted on coffee.
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You know I have a friend who's sunk quite a few hours into coffee research himself.. :D
 
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swag said:
But what I don't understand is how could anyone keep getting away with pouring billions of dollars into decades of coffee-related medical research for conflicting and insignificant study after weekly conflicting and insignificant study -- and we're still beating this dead horse. We keep dumping money on this research like we're trying to cure cancer, and all we've learned is that coffee is pretty much irrelevant to our health save for a 0.000003% probability of increased/decreased this or that.

That kind of return on investment is worse than the Vietnam War for America.

This research is a funded boondoggle... the media keeps reporting it, readers keep eating these stories up, so funders keep funding it to get their studies and teams in the public eye, and the science behind it is a complete waste and useless information. A criminal investigation really ought to be put on this. It's a crime that we only have this much to show for it for the billions of research hours wasted on coffee.
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Dude, come on. You're a drug addict but you can't even acknowledge the consequences of drinking coffee.

I've done a variety of drugs but I don't deny their risks.
 
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Kyle said:
and it really pushes through those difficult bowel movements so i can get on with my day :tup:

feels a bit rough on the heart though
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So can a big penis.

Martin said:
You know I have a friend who's sunk quite a few hours into coffee research himself.. :D
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I'm curious now. Is it just because it's so easy to get research funding on it? That they know there's a great chance that the research project, the names of its researchers, and the funders will make easy national headlines?

I still don't get why disproportionally go apeshit over coffee research. People are dying of record obesity, there's a bizarre epidemic of autoimmune disorders, opioids are contributing to white people death, and we still have 50 more weekly studies on coffee like nobody ever thought to research it before in the past four decades.

Seven said:
Coffee has minimal risks at worst. And that's if you drink it in massive quantities.
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We have over 1,000 years of epidemiological evidence to suggest coffee is irrelevant to our health in moderation. In contrast, we only have about 10 years of data about what harm some mysterious "immunity boost" in your Jamba Juice is doing to you. And yet we beat that coffee dead horse over and over again as if we're thinking, "No, it's going to be the 7,214,124th study where we'll finally discover coffee increases your rate of cancer 40%".

What other profession would tolerate billions of dollars and decades of research for so little return? You or I would have been fired before year 2.
 
Seven

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swag said:
So can a big penis.



I'm curious now. Is it just because it's so easy to get research funding on it? That they know there's a great chance that the research project, the names of its researchers, and the funders will make easy national headlines?

I still don't get why disproportionally go apeshit over coffee research. People are dying of record obesity, there's a bizarre epidemic of autoimmune disorders, opioids are contributing to white people death, and we still have 50 more weekly studies on coffee like nobody ever thought to research it before in the past four decades.



We have over 1,000 years of epidemiological evidence to suggest coffee is irrelevant to our health in moderation. In contrast, we only have about 10 years of data about what harm some mysterious "immunity boost" in your Jamba Juice is doing to you. And yet we beat that coffee dead horse over and over again as if we're thinking, "No, it's going to be the 7,214,124th study where we'll finally discover coffee increases your rate of cancer 40%".

What other profession would tolerate billions of dollars and decades of research for so little return? You or I would have been fired before year 2.
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The research might look like a wasted effort, but sometimes great medicine or great inventions come from seemingly stupid research. To be fair, the coffee thing does seem a bit overdone. It won't harm you, but the effects on longevity will be negligible too. We would have noticed if all coffee drinkers grew 200 years old.
 
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Seven said:
The research might look like a wasted effort, but sometimes great medicine or great inventions come from seemingly stupid research. To be fair, the coffee thing does seem a bit overdone. It won't harm you, but the effects on longevity will be negligible too. We would have noticed if all coffee drinkers grew 200 years old.
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For the medical research community to keep beating this dead horse after decades, we can only presume one of not both of the following:

a) Gross incompetence. Most of these studies are poorly constructed and lacking decent scientific foundation to begin with. But for us to continue researching it, throwing gross incompetence on to more gross incompetence, is itself another form of incompetence.

b) Public deception. The researchers know their studies are worthless. But since they continue to get easy funding for them, they do not let up -- hoping nobody kills the goose laying the golden eggs.

Either answer is not too flattering of the scientific community.
 
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